I have been thinking about the convo going on between mostly Iggish and Rune, but which Inffy playes a part in as well. I have tried to get through the last few pages and and a few things certainly stood out to me. I wanna try to keep this post a little bit organised, since I have experienced myself this game the struggle that comes with reading long posts, and I fear this will be such a post.
NOTE: THIS POST IS ABOUT ALL 3
1. The general deal in the Iggy vs Rune convo.
So i found this quote wich summarizes quite well what Iggy has been doing mostly.
Ok, I'm going to try and make people understand why I think Rune is scummy. People have pretty "meh" opinions on Rune, saying that he "a bit suspicious" and that he's "said suspicious" things. Tbh, I just don't think people understood / understand what happened and why I'm so suspicious of him. Inffy said a while back that you're not as invested in something and you find it hard to understand when you're not involved in it and I think this is particularly true in this instance.
Iggish seems to be focussed on showing every wrong doing that Rune has done 'in his eyes' (i dont say I disagree with Iggish, he makes fair points).
While he is in the right to question Rune and what he does, in my eyes he is taking it too the extreme. The last few pages consist of quite a bit of huge and 'obnoxious' posts (its a pain to get through massive walls of texts where you quote whole posts instead of the points that matter), where he puts everything rune does up for inspection.
2. The example of Rune's claims #1.
Rune's claims are a great example for both why i find iggish kinda tricky, and of some of the questionable things rune has said.
For starters rune said this when he claimed early on:
I'll stick with my word and claim as
In my eyes this quote made sense, he promised that he would claim this day, and that is what he meant. However, iggish, as part of his questoning all Rune's doings, commented the following:
I was only referring to the sentence I quoted, not your claim. "I'll stick to my word" seems odd. This should be a given if you're telling the truth.
Here he, as I see it, wrongly interprets Rune's post, and uses it in one of his posts to make rune look suspicious. I HAVE TO BE CAREFULL WITH THIS KINDA PHRASING, SINCE I HAVE BEEN CALLED OUT BEFORE, I DONT MEAN YOU DELIBERATELY USE FALSE INFO. By going out of you way to analyse everything Rune says, 'mistakes' like this tend to slip in. It makes me think you might be out to convince Rune is scum no matter what he says.
3. The example of Rune's claims #2.
HOWEVER, sometimes you are right, this next time rune mentions his claim, he says somethig tricky
My claim is sticking as Justin Trudeau as a vanilla townie
Iggish was right to point out, that this as such is a very strange thing to say. Why would he not stick to his claim? Also i dont think iggish is wrong to distrust Rune, I too don't fully trust rune.
4. Rune appears to change faces.
I remember reading the following quote by Rune:
Agreed, for me Inffy read as strongly town, not as Autocrat. I would have thought an autocrat would be more quiet and more out of the way than what Inf is currently acting.
If anything, it would make sense to try to have Mafia switch to have Inffy lynched as he is the most vocal and having the excuse as Inf = autocrat could have had the potential of swaying towns mind in lynching Inf in Mafias head.
Currently, the three who were vocal about this theory of Inf being Autocrat were:
Danni - Quiet in the game and doesn't input a lot into the current matter
Vatumok - Also quiet but less 'memey' than Danni.
Erik - He town read to me personally so I don't understand if he was scum to out himself like this. Maybe he thought that because town think he isn't scum; that he would have a bigger say and potentially sway people's mind?
This seems very out of the blue and VERY dodgy indeed.
I thought it was quite strange, the way he seems to seek rapprochement towards inffy (lol soz i didnt know that word in english so i googled it, not sure if it is a common word). It feels like he is trying to distant himself from the things going on between him and Iggish, iggish being someone who inffy also seems to support.
5. Inffy's role in all this, and some other remarks on inffy
I WANT TO POINT OUT I FINISHED WRITING POINT 4 AROUND TWO HOURS AGO, BUT THEN WENT TO HAVE DINNER AND AM CONTINUING NOW. especially for inffy, cus i noticed he mentioned me like right before i went for dinner, and I still didnt read what he mentioned me in.
Overall Inffy seems to be on top of his game this round of mafia. He is playing to the point, and seems to be using several strategies (not all of those are good strategies). I'd argue that inffy's playstyle this game leans mostly to his town-style. I see a lot of 'his' style back in how Iggish has revealed himself this game. What I mean that, in my eyes, this game Iggish has started to make posts of the long and get-to-the-bottom style. This doesn't necesairly link iggish and inffy, however Inffy seems to support iggish a lot in his posts. He is very keen to support iggy in his pursuit Rune (tagging people what they think about rune a lot), and i noticed he has also been leaving quite a bit of positive ratings on some of the longer iggish posts (well most are long tbh). I feel like inffy is siding with iggish quite a bit. OFC this could just mean that they both are town and both conviced that the other is town, but there could be more to it (some obvious and some more far-fetched possible reasons, i dont have a specific reason in mind rn, just wanted to point out it feels like he is siding with iggy a bit)
WHILE INF MOSTLY SEEMS TOWN
he has done some 'questionable' things. NO, i dont mean his silence strategy, which was quite nifty, and seems like something inffy would do in any game (so town or scum). He has been more vicious in some of his attempt to get to the bottom of what players mean. As example this wasn't only when he tried to see how I would respond if he called me out for 'lying', but most importantly i find the way he treats danni rather odd. I think danni would agree, that there have been more than one occuring this game where danni would say something, to which inffy would respond rather viciously (i dont mean offense with the word vicious). (I KNOW INFFY IS GONNA WANT QUOTES, BUT IM STILL ONLY GONNA FIND THE ONES I HAD IN MIND IF HE ASKS FOR IT NICELY)
6. THE END
I'm going to end it off here for now, feel like these were the most imporant things i had to say. As always, feel free to comment if things are unclear, i'm sure there are gonna be questions/doubts etc. Please do try to reply in a well mannered fashion, i dont want to be part of yet another crazy back and fort, i've had too many of those for one game.