Appreciate the response anyways. G2H what do you want to do with this day rn.
If there is a cap as you mention earlier, than everyone would try to go for conversion b/c a 2-person cap means maf can theoretically win in a day. That's absurd. Either all deal-makers swap in that scenario or it's dangerous/altered enough so that they are not inclined to do so, if that makes sense.
Boils down to believing a town would not gamethrow like that in an ideal world since that just sucks. Also me believing that Stranger would balance things in such a way that such scenarios would be impossible/incredibly unlikely. And, if Alisha plans to swap in this scenario, she'd be gamethrowing for maf as well since her allegiance change would be sus'd or outright known.
that's assuming everyone believes the deal results in a conversion though, sinners don't know what the deal does
and like i said it could be that the devil needs to meet certain requirements in order to be able to accept a deal
they may not be able to accept more than 1 per day as well
idk what you mean about "if Alisha plans to swap in this scenario, she'd be gamethrowing for maf as well since her allegiance change would be sus'd or outright known."? she could switch and town don't necessarily think she did switch/opt to lynch her
but to be clear, im not argueing for this conversion theory, i think its possible but im not saying i think its the case, alisha is, and that's all that matters for my point on her
Like I said, it's the Notty thing. Notty would breed chaos but they weren't stupid.
and i wouldn't say alisha is being stupid here. if alisha genuinely believes the deal results in conversion then i can easily see her bringing it up, then planning to convert, using the argument of 'why would i bring the conversion possibility up when i planned to convert myself, that'd just make people alert to conversions and shoot myself in the foot' to try to get away with it
But what if scum!Beta is sheeping town!Sess
but i don't think beta would pile on suspicion on a scumbuddy (vat in this case) like that so early on, even if it was to sheep a town, so i dont think that's what would be happening
Their current theories on game mechanics have been good content imo.
good content, but easy content to make as a scum to contribute. why does his contributions to theorycrafting = townie?
Plus their unwillingness to trust Tim/Alisha immediately and questioning their claims since claiming D0 is always worth being skeptical of. Would lean town atm.
i don't see why this is townie either unless you think one of alisha/tim are scum? aqua could easily be unwilling to trust them and question their claims if he's scum, either just to look like he's scumhunting or because he doesn't want townies to be townread too hard, since scum obv benefit from having as little townies be trusted as possible.
If you used the numbers argument out of the gate I'd buy it b/c that's true, but it hinged more on you having no confident sus's rather than numbers.
nope
tbh vote alisha
i was gonna advocate for NL today after we'd got good discussion on who to lynch going, since 12 players means NLing gives us the same amount of mislynches as lynching except with more nights to use actions
this is the first time i mentioned wanting to NL and it's about the numbers. ive said several times that i want to lynch if im confident in someone since i'd rather lynch scum than nl, but otherwise will want to nl, and that the reason is because of the extra night actions it gives us
It doesn't - it just means that we don't necessarily only have 2 free lynches?
yeah but we should be working under the worst case scenario assumption where that doesn't happen, not assuming it does
besides why are you so sure a role like that or a blocker type role doesn't exist?
i'm not, i'm just not assuming we have one, and so its too risky to lynch a sinner who i dont necessarily scumread, rather than nl/lynch a scumread imo
Inf likes to pretend he's better than me at mafia ?
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i f y o u b e l i e v e t h i s w h y a r e y o u a g a i n s t l y n c h i n g t h e m ? ? ?
since i have no reason to believe alignment switching is actually a thing. if it becomes evident its a thing then i will want to lynch her, until then i think shes town and could easily not be able to switch alignments at all