Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN

[Infected_alien8_]

i don’t understand the difference

like, hk wasnt saying "i didnt like the fog vote"

hk was saying "i bet vat didnt like the fog vote"

 

[Alisha]

fog deserved to die and i stand by the lynch, yet i hold pain and anguish in my heart that it had to come so far

way to play both sides

i hope fog haunts you

 

[Vatumok]

i mean its only vat

and he was there defending him day 1, except he flipped and voted him halfway through

This is a lie, I only flipped on him once the day was almost over

 

[HKCaper]

way to play both sides

i hope fog haunts you

already did, i cry myself to sleep

 

[Infected_alien8_]

This is a lie, I only flipped on him once the day was almost over

by halfway i mean when he was exactly half way to being lynched vote-wise

 

[Aqua]

fog deserved to die and i stand by the lynch, yet i hold pain and anguish in my heart that it had to come so far

I genuinely cannot comprehend vat's reasoning in regards to the fog lynch, he claimed for no reason when town had said not to, he made up a weird inconsistent story as to why and continuously dropped excuses. He also actively tried to raise suspicion against a fellow player (unu) before they had a chance to respond for seemingly no reason, and when they did come back and call fog out on his bullshit he back tracked everything.

 

[Aqua]

This but replace tim for weak

Why are Inf and Tim not scum for pushing for fogs lynch?

 

[Vatumok]

Yes every scum can just claim x deserved to get lynched to push off suspicion.

 

[Vatumok]

But he was town which means that of the people who pushed him can easily be scum trying to get an easy target lynched,

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Yes every scum can just claim x deserved to get lynched to push off suspicion.

and every town can claim x deserved to get lynched because they genuinely thought so

and every maf can claim x didnt deserve to get lynched even though they voted him, to try to look like they didnt push a mislynch

 

[Aqua]

I genuinely cannot comprehend vat's reasoning in regards to the fog lynch, he claimed for no reason when town had said not to, he made up a weird inconsistent story as to why and continuously dropped excuses. He also actively tried to raise suspicion against a fellow player (unu) before they had a chance to respond for seemingly no reason, and when they did come back and call fog out on his bullshit he back tracked everything.

Like for the same reason I'm voting Vat, a big part of me was open to fog being innocent just as vat could very well be innocent now. But he was an active detriment to the town who was acting incredibly erratically and 'scummy' - we needed a lynch day 0 and had no evidence or reason to go for anybody else.

Right now I could easily see Vat being town, but he is far more likely to be scum than anyone else and is a much greater danger for future town votes than his fellow sinners.

 

[Vatumok]

and every town can claim x deserved to get lynched because they genuinely thought so

and every maf can claim x didnt deserve to get lynched even though they voted him, to try to look like they didnt push a mislynch

Of course but the fact is that you tried very hard to lynch a townie target and I didn't, I gave in because day was gonna end and wanted to avoid a NL. Do you think scum is gonna push a target that looks very townie? No, obviously they will take advantage of townies already looking bad.

 

[Infected_alien8_]

Of course but the fact is that you tried very hard to lynch a townie target and I didn't, I gave in because day was gonna end and wanted to avoid a NL. Do you think scum is gonna push a target that looks very townie? No, obviously they will take advantage of townies already looking bad.

this is pure wifom though

 

[Vatumok]

Right now I could easily see Vat being town, but he is far more likely to be scum than anyone else and is a much greater danger for future town votes than his fellow sinners.

Hard to be more dangerous for town than a person who supports 2 mislynches in a row.

 

[Aqua]

But he was town which means that of the people who pushed him can easily be scum trying to get an easy target lynched,

they can be, doesn't mean they are.

If I was going off of night 2 immediately after fog was lynched I would have said that both myself and inf were completely justified for our actions. Innocent or not. Same with Tim, Hk and everyone else who voted him.

You still haven't pointed out anything I've done this game to look "scummy" other than push for a townies lynch (for perfectly valid, agreeable reasons), who was also being pushed for by a couple of people you have town read.

I will retract my vote for you if you can produce a single quote to support your argument.

 

[Aqua]

Hard to be more dangerous for town than a person who supports 2 mislynches in a row.

Better lynch Inf, Hk, TWG, Tim and Alisha (+whoever else is willing to vote you) then

 

[Aqua]

Better lynch Inf, Hk, TWG, Tim and Alisha (+whoever else is willing to vote you) then

Oh wait shit that's the entire town... guess the entire town is scummy and vatu is innocent ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[HKCaper]

so far i got a few combos that dont make sense in my head
unu/skele/twg (dont think skele would have made that claim without either inf or vat on maf)
unu/skele/inf (3 saints duh)
twg/skele/vat (dont think twg would susp both his maf buds)
twg/unu (less strong, but the way twg wanted unu to add him to a nightchat didnt feel buddy like)

 

[Vatumok]

You still haven't pointed out anything I've done this game to look "scummy" other than push for a townies lynch (for perfectly valid, agreeable reasons), who was also being pushed for by a couple of people you have town read.

- General vibes.
- Pushing a townie lynch yesterday and today (obv you can't know that I am town but FROM MY PERSPECTIVE)
- Your claim being unbelievable:
1. You have been pushing for a mass claim from the beginning which means you probably had something prepared.
2. It just sounds fabricated to be able to bless people and clear them that way plus block an action.
3. Inffy and your claim kind of clash consider the other saint claims, I assume only one is speaking the truth and my gut says inffy is more town.
- You essentially clearing Alisha and then denying it which I don't understand at all.
- Being overly dismissive whenever people share opinions you disagree with. I know, I know, this is your personality but you could very easily use this to mask you are scum while pushing mislynches.
- I've also kinda tied you to HK because the entire situation of clearing Alisha + Tim while HK saved you n1 and got blocked n2 all seems very convenient.

 

[Aqua]

twg/unu (less strong, but the way twg wanted unu to add him to a nightchat didnt feel buddy like)

You have to remember TWG wasn't in the game to formulate plans during the night so this could be his way of getting unu to not do anything stupid, idk

 

[Vatumok]

Also I'd like to point out that Unu and Tim are my strongest town reads this game, I doubt either of them are scum.

 

[Aqua]

- General vibes.
- Pushing a townie lynch yesterday and today (obv you can't know that I am town but FROM MY PERSPECTIVE)
- Your claim being unbelievable:
1. You have been pushing for a mass claim from the beginning which means you probably had something prepared.
2. It just sounds fabricated to be able to bless people and clear them that way plus block an action.
3. Inffy and your claim kind of clash consider the other saint claims, I assume only one is speaking the truth and my gut says inffy is more town.
- You essentially clearing Alisha and then denying it which I don't understand at all.
- Being overly dismissive whenever people share opinions you disagree with. I know, I know, this is your personality but you could very easily use this to mask you are scum while pushing mislynches.
- I've also kinda tied you to HK because the entire situation of clearing Alisha + Tim while HK saved you n1 and got blocked n2 all seems very convenient.

A quote, a quote my kingdom for a quote.

I will literally throw the game and vote myself if you can provide ONE quote in context to explain why I'm either: scummy, wrong for voting fog or inconsistent with my role.

Anything like that and I will end myself for you. Just one quote. That's all I ask.

 

[Aqua]

Also I'd like to point out that Unu and Tim are my strongest town reads this game, I doubt either of them are scum.

 

[HKCaper]

i'm sorry but lets just lynch vat, and if (IF) he somehow is town, we just lynch inf tomorow, because obviously one (or both) of them is(/are) scum.

 

[Aqua]

i'm sorry but lets just lynch vat, and if (IF) he somehow is town, we just lynch inf tomorow, because obviously one (or both) of them is(/are) scum.

No, I want my quote