Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN
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Votecount 4: They Came, They Saw, They Voted
Infected_Alien8_ - HKCaper, Vatumok [L-5]HKCaper - Unusual_Dood [L-6]
Aqua - Fog [L-6]
Everyone - Timdood3 [L-6]
Timdood3 - Aqua [L-6]
Vatumok - Alisha [L-6]
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch and 6 votes to no-lynch. If hammer is not reached by the deadline, nobody will be lynched.
In addition, here's a deadline for Day 0:
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My apologies vatumok, I had quite a tiring rehearsal and just came home!
But I have quite the same situation here and can't really decide right now.
imagine being awake before 4pm
if you want my opinion on the theory crafting, i think most of the suggestions are plausible except like converting town to 3p since i think stranger would likely consider that unbalanced. but in general, given this is stranger's first game without a co-host there's a lot of room for theories that might have flaws in them since everyone's first game is flawed somehow, so imo plenty of the theories people have suggested are possible even if they don't seem fully balanced
i could see alisha's idea being a thing with the idea behind the setup being that the devil gets to choose his team from the sinners based on who they are as a person + the abilities they're offering, maybe with extra measures in place for balance like the devil has to meet a certain requirement before they can accept someone's deal. for example the devil could have to do certain things to unlock the ability to recruit another teammate, e.g. give up his investigation immunity to unlock teammate 1, place the first vote of a lynch that goes through to unlock teammate 2. and maybe if devil is lynched day 0 they auto recruit 1 sinner so that the game doesn't end immediately, and maybe there's town roles that stranger thought would help keep the alignment conversion from being too OP e.g. 2 cops or something.
i could also see sessy's idea of the devil being 3p and having both town + mafia sinners trying to make deals with them being a thing, with the drawback being something like making them vulnerable to being silenced for a day, or it works kinda like the epicmafia alien role where they get marked for the devil after taking the deal and if all players left alive at some point in the game are marked, the devil steals the win, and that's what the drawback is
i could also see the devil being maf with two 'voodoo community' roles as its mafia team already, and that making deals is a mixture of good/bad for scum/town.
maybe the devil can force you to making a deal using the voodoo roles - though i don't think that has to be the case, and i could see stranger just thinking players would sometimes opt to making a deal with the devil themselves - since whilst you, aqua, wouldn't ever risk it, you can't assume that stranger thought everyone would come to that same conclusion
ultimately i think plenty of possibilities are possible at this point, i dont think spending all day discussing it is gonna get us far this early in the game so i'm mostly putting my attention on scumhunting
same this post rubbed me the wrong way too
even if you're not used to it i think you'd ordinarily be easily able to judge what seems plausible/contribute ideas for how the setup could be so this feels like a fake excuse to me
also skele hasn't even said anything other than saying hi right at the start ?
why?
i wasnt complaining about you, i was accusing vat of giving a fake read on you since you'd not said anything of substance yet
"Fake read" is a strange word to use here IMO. Also I am much more interested in whether you agree with my reads rather than explaining people why. Obviously there is not much to go off but throwing suspicions at people for small things can kickstart discussion and test reactions.
why is it a strange word to use
i don't believe you genuinely find skele scummy, so i believe it's a disingenuous opinion/fake read
no I don't agree with them, hk/skele are neutral for me, sessy feels slightly town but feels too early for me to have any kind of confidence in that, it's just an early gut feeling
so are you saying your read on skele was just to test his reaction and isn't genuine?
That's IMO how mafia is supposed to be played, set up a theory of who's scum (team) based on combination of process of elimination and seeing who looks weird. Then explore that theory by posting reads about them and seeing how people react around them. Doesn't mean that I am confident in em either but at least it's something to work with for now. Of course when I have new info I will change my stance again.
It's not contradictory, it doesn't give me information to explain to you why I think that way, it does give me information what you think about the people in my lists. I'm not asking for people to build a case against skele or to defend him with arguments but I'd like to see where people stand as almost no one else has posted reads.
Ah, I think I misunderstood. You meant that you're not interested in explaining your own reads. I thought you meant you weren't interested on hearing others' explanations.
But I think it's more productive overall to determine solid town players rather than try to pick out a full mafia team on Day 1
As such, I have no scum reads, but am confident that Alisha is town, and to a lesser extent, Aqua and Inf. (But I always naturally trust inf so don't take that one too hard)
i don't take issue with sharing your reads and seeing people's reactions to them, i take issue with your read supposedly being skele being scummy, since i find it hard to believe you genuinely think that. at first that was since i thought you were finding his content scummy, in which case my reaction was that he'd only posted this:
at that point in the game, so the read felt fake, maybe since you were just faking reads to look town without putting too much thought into it
but you then elaborated by saying it was because you'd expect him to post sooner as town, but you still haven't explained why that is, and i also find that reason hard to believe since skele is inactive usually regardless of role and i cant imagine he's much different in discord
also, if this is the reason you aren't explaining your skele read - sure it might not be beneficial to you to explain to others your reads, but you're not the only town in the game, it gives the whole town team information and the more information every town is able to get the better
i wouldn’t change alignment because suddenly going from town to scum means throwing away everything else i did in the game and basically sabotaging town for a cute little ‘gotcha’ moment
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