It's interesting nobody has come forth claiming to have had a night chat with unu last night - I suppose it was sessy which does support his town claim.
Mafia: Saints & Sinners - GAME OVER MAFIA WIN
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5 saints is nonsense Imo, would completely throw off the balance of the game. Inffy's and Aqua's roles being so similar seems like it's impossible as well. I'm not sure why Aqua suggested lynching me when he supposedly has a power to clear sinners. Why not look to lynch inffy whose claim almost counters yours. At the least why not lynch a sinner with a much weaker claim like WeakGuy. I would prefer to lynch one of Aqua/Inffy and if that's not possible then WeakGuy.
TheWeakGuy's claim is by no means strong (pun intended) and he'll be either investigated or axed soon., but he hasn't had a history of being obtuse. unhelpful and incoherent.
Your logic and arguments have been inconsistent and lacking in any fundamental reason.
TWG's a replacement of a replacement. I can't have any reads on him yet.
Just cuz you understand it doesn't mean it's lacking. Not being able to have a read WeakGuy is weird, his claim is weak plus with process of elimination you should be able to say something. For some reason you never thought of the idea that you could clear me next night even tho HK did.
If you are town I see no reason why you want to lynch me tonight, if HK is speaking the truth then he has to be killed today or you can clear all sinners while being healed. This way mafia gets forced into killing saints and we get revealed who's lying and not.
How does his claim have any less weight to it than yours?
I can prove someone is a poor sinner tonight. We still need a lynch today tho.
If you don't want to kill sinners to confirm em, Skele would be the option as his claim is not credible and he didn't add much but pushing on me in his post. Even if he is speaking the truth mafia has no reason to nightkill him and how power is not that useful. If you want to kill a sinner to confirm the other two I'd want to get WeakGuy. He hasn't contributed anything at all and just comes in to quickly poor sinner joe whiched seemed like a poor forced attempt to claim.
Will do.
Excuse me but I did mention everything? Or did you mean Unu? if so then he mentioned it too
UNU isnt a saint either though, and like i said there are thousands of saints
assuming stranger just gave random names its easily possible that a majority of them would happen to be names of real saints
just type in random names in google and most of them happen to be a saint
and my phrasing of my claim was that i undo deals and revoke the consequences of them, surely you can see how id have worded that poorly if i was truly saying that it only protected town from the negative consequences, but its worded fine if im saying it revokes all consequences, in which case its unlikely that the former was my intention
the devil could be maf and also be able to deal with fellow mafia though. the devil could not know who the other maf are. the devil could also easily still be 3p.
these options yeah, but also 3) that devil is maf but the maf and devil dont know who each other are.
to clarify im not saying its likely that any of those options are the case, thats why i said in my big post that actually its a 50/50 aqua's innocent, because i either believe a) the lack of nightkill n1 was due to some random theory that i come up with, or b) the lack of hypnotist role evidence is due to some random theory i come up with. i have no reason to believe either over the other, so to my mind its a 50/50
see what i said above. i agree its slim your role is true, but to believe its false means i have to explain the no kill, which means believing some other slim likelihood theory, so i think it is about a 50/50, not to mention vibes tell me youre town as well
how
Unu is a saint. Literally googling saint jean comes up with the patron saint of canada.
Sure they all could be random names and maybe I'm bias considering my name is Joseph, but the fact you're the only one who isn't shouldn't be disregarded.
that's absolute nonesense dude wtf
I know your not a statistician but it's common sense that with everything supporting my claim vs the minor issues you take with my role is not a 50/50 and honestly the fact you keep pushing that idea that somehow it is, is really fucking suspicious.
it's like not being sure whether to send a man to jail for murder despite a long list of provable alibis because he claimed to be wearing a captain america tshirt when in reality he was wearing a my little pony one.
Your logic is inane and very out of characterly nonsensical and I don't like it.
Either you're trying to plant seeds under the basis it's gonna turn out to be a Aqua v Inf lynch scenario - which in itself is incredibly antitown off the basis that we are indeed both townies
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You're scum and you're trying to sow the seeds of descent to build up animosity against me within the town.
google didnt say that for me until i googled saint jean patron saint of canada
still, if im scum and im fakeclaiming a saint do you honestly believe i didnt opt to claim a legit saint name just in case everyones an actual saint
if you do i am offended
what
you barely have anything supporting your claim
the only way your claim makes any sense is if theres a hypnotist role, which weve seen 0 evidence of yet. which youve agreed with??
being the only cop-esque role is decent yeah but in a game where several people can ask for a roleblock/track from the devil, depending on how deals work, it isnt impossible we'd just have no cop this game
ive said several times i dont want to lynch you and that i think youre town. i couldve easily pushed on the "theres no evidence to support a hypnotist role" but instead i listed reasons for why that could be. my big post was essentially an argument for why we shouldnt lynch you. so if you think im trying to set you up for a lynch, youre paranoid
yeah i agree
idk if youre misunderstanding my point, my point is that yeah its unlikely that the nokill wasnt because you saved aqua, therefore its reasonable aqua could be town, despite the 0 evidence of a hypnotist role
then why is it 50/50
i got blocked last night. there is 0 evidence mafia can make deals on their own either, so that could be a hypnotists doing as i theorized earlier.
since its also unlikely we'd not have seen evidence of a hypnotist role yet, if there was one. which aqua even said himself earlier. since itd mean either maf didnt use it, they happened to use it on aqua's targets, or they used it on non-sinner claims which makes no sense.
both scenarios, one where you didnt save aqua, the other where there's a hypnotist, are equally unlikely. aqua feels town and his claim supports his behaviour so that part of him is why i lean town, but looking at the claim itself, alone, is a 50/50 on whether he'd be scum or town imo
what do you mean, what could be a hypnotist doing?
my theory was that the 'hypnotist' or 'voodoo player' can control a sinner's action for night. hence they could have voodoo'd a sinner into blocking me last night.
thats not the type of hypnotist role that aqua's role needs in order to be believable though
if aqua's ability is useful there must be a scum role that can force someone into making a deal with the devil, not just using their abilities
we've seen 0 evidence of that yet, but we've also got 0 reason to believe the maf nk night 1 wasnt due to you saving him, so it could go either way
meanwhile Aqua im confused since youve literally said this yourself yet now are coming for me for doubting you:
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