CAPITALISM MAFIA
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Ok since I haven't spoken in a while I guess it's time for me to talk. First of, I don't think that there's a connection between the countries ppl belong to and their alignment. I think we're reading way too much into it and at maximum there is a limited connection between country/alignment.
Also I'm gonna list who I think are most scum.
1. Inffy, because how he didn't talk at the beginning and excused it off as 'didnt have anything to contribute' and the other stuff he said.
2. Unu, Out of nowhere he starts to say how 'suspicious' he is of me. He said that he has been right with my alignment every game so he is likely to be right this time too (bs). I think he wants to lynch me because: 1. He knows me good 2. Literally every game I've played I have been pushed for a lynch so ppl can easily recognize me as scum
3. Notty, basically because she started a discussion with iggish because of a minor mistake. Not really suspicious but just feels like she could want to derail(is that a word?) the discussion.
Also I'm gonna list who I think are most scum.
1. Inffy, because how he didn't talk at the beginning and excused it off as 'didnt have anything to contribute' and the other stuff he said.
2. Unu, Out of nowhere he starts to say how 'suspicious' he is of me. He said that he has been right with my alignment every game so he is likely to be right this time too (bs). I think he wants to lynch me because: 1. He knows me good 2. Literally every game I've played I have been pushed for a lynch so ppl can easily recognize me as scum
3. Notty, basically because she started a discussion with iggish because of a minor mistake. Not really suspicious but just feels like she could want to derail(is that a word?) the discussion.
People have recognized me as scum in previous game(where I turned out to be town) so the arguments/ideas of me being scum isnt unheard of
Yeah, you're right, that's a mistake on my part. Looking back though, I did mention Canada even before his claim ^.
But if I missed Rune's role then I couldn't have known for sure if Canada was in the game or not (I heavily presumed it was, but wasn't sure) so that wouldn't make it seem like I was on the ball about the set up. Also, as notty pointed out, me supposedly knowing more about the set up would be a bad thing because people would wonder why I knew more about it then them and it would draw suspicion, so I wouldn't see the point in doing this.
i got an inquiry about using last-online timestamps as evidence
this is:
-against the rules i stole from gmk
-potentially misleading cause i'm not above using other means of communication for the sake of convenience if i was out or something since i've been without consistent wifi for a while and don't like loading the site on data more than necessary
-I've been fooling around with my boyfriend in bales of hay, so haven't been actively checking mafia
this is:
-against the rules i stole from gmk
-potentially misleading cause i'm not above using other means of communication for the sake of convenience if i was out or something since i've been without consistent wifi for a while and don't like loading the site on data more than necessary
-I've been fooling around with my boyfriend in bales of hay, so haven't been actively checking mafia
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It generated discussion because it became an event, a conversation starter. It doesn't matter what the content of the discussion is about, we just need people to speak so we can read vibes, notice patterns/interactions etc.
What? How would I have been confirmed scum if I jumped out of the charade? Why would I not do that as town, if I faked the whole thing? And why do you wish that happened? So you wish something happened which would make me look scum, even though it doesn't prove that I am or not. Ok Aqua.
And the reason it seems like a bandwagon is because your opinion on me suddenly had a drastic change after oog/twg said they had doubts about me genuinely being silenced, which you've still yet to answer about actually. Why did you change from doubting that I was faking it, saying that I didn't have enough forethought, to suddenly saying that it was "exactly like something inf would do tbh"?
And:
:thinking: so your theory that I wanted to remain silent for several days, is still a legitimate theory, despite the fact that I'm speaking. Ok Aqua. **
I never said anywhere that my behaviour "proves I'm not scum". I defended why what I did wasn't a scummy move, because it'd make no sense for scum to do that.
** I mean fair enough theory I guess.
I mean say what you want about me being special but my strategy got me my read on Aqua at least and made some patterns emerge so you guys can all thank me later
Why not? What is your reason for that?
So your reason for talking isn't because you want to help town by contributing your reads, it's because you haven't spoken in a while so ought to, really, so that you're not suspicious????
Oh yeah, didn't see that, woops.
And yeah well my point was that maybe you didn't genuinely miss rune's claim and just pretended to, but yeah your argument about it making you look more suspicious rather than helpful makes sense.
As for the cl*p thing, personally I'm pretty sceptical.
First of all, Ender why did you decide to ask people to clap? Seems like a massive coincidence that you'd just so happen to conveniently guess exactly what you needed to do to get these powers, despite having no information about it. Why did you decide that getting people to say cl*p would be a good idea?
Also you even said "i can feel the power surging" - was this before or after you were told by Jivvi that you were becoming more powerful?
It just seems like you've randomly been EXACTLY right about how to use the clap situation and I can't understand how you managed to do that if what you're saying is the whole truth.
Also, when do you get to use the lie detector? How does that work?
Also I highly doubt that jivvi decided to include a mechanic in which he'd have to keep a close eye on the thread to notice when people use the word "clap" (literally he'd have to read every single post ever), when he's busy and inactive
Yeah but if it is truly that the more we say it, the worse the situation, then maybe I made it worse by saying it more times
idk but I don't think people should say the word
FROM NOW ON THAT WORD IS LIKE VOLDEMORT, HE WHO SHALL NOT BE NAMED
It generated discussion because it became an event, a conversation starter. It doesn't matter what the content of the discussion is about, we just need people to speak so we can read vibes, notice patterns/interactions etc.
But you can start conversation in ways that don't potentially add elements to the game that don't exist. I'll give you that you did drop the charade before it became too harmful, but the added elements that you presented could have been threatening to the town and resulted in a townie lynch. Besides most vibes people got from others become obsolete as we now know there wasn't a censor (I.E my thoughts on Claire possibly being a censor and doing a bad job at hiding it by being the one to announce infs unusual silence (that being said it was a very superficial vibe anyway, personally the only thing I got from this is terrible vibes from you)).
but Alright, I shouldn't have said prove. My bad.
also @paige you've been rather inactive but seemed to have some strongish points, whats ur current take :eyes:
But you can start conversation in ways that don't potentially add elements to the game that don't exist. I'll give you that you did drop the charade before it became too harmful, but the added elements that you presented could have been threatening to the town and resulted in a townie lynch. Besides most vibes people got from others become obsolete as we now know there wasn't a censor (I.E my thoughts on Claire possibly being a censor and doing a bad job at hiding it by being the one to announce infs unusual silence (that being said it was a very superficial vibe anyway, personally the only thing I got from this is terrible vibes from you)).
Because it would prove you weren't actually silenced, pretending to be silenced for no reason IS NOT A TOWN THING TO DO.
Because once again, a townie WOULD NOT do that
Alright, I'll give you that I did contradict myself. The first post about you not being smart enough held no value it was just banter like oog calling you special, so there's no need to read into that <3
I cba since ur trying to undermine me by misquoting and belittling me
Prove may be the wrong word but like you say you did try and paint a picture for us that it would be stupid for scum to do it followed with an awful argument to explain it, to try and convince people what you did could not be seen as scummy even tho ofc it could (like regardless of if you are townie, which im confident you're not, you would still be able to see how scummy that looks).
but Alright, I shouldn't have said prove. My bad.
also @paige you've been rather inactive but seemed to have some strongish points, whats ur current take :eyes:
There was no deadline so it didn't matter to me that I may be falsely leading people into incorrect suspicions, since I always planned to speak at some point and clear everything up. I made sure I spoke before anything bad happened like you said, so I don't understand why you're still convinced that what I did was scummy. Usually I try to evoke conversation by prodding everyone and tagging people but I decided to switch things up this game, mostly because I didn't have anything to prod anyone about yet.
How am I misquoting you?
How is it an "awful argument"? I would gain 0 from doing this as scum. The only possible gain I'd get would be if I continued to do it, which I didn't. I admitted that it could look scummy and that I knew it was a risk that I may look suspicious, but as I said, I also knew that I had a good defence for it, which I could just put forward if I became a target.
Which points of hers have you considered strong?
And just because a conversation is about a theory that is incorrect, that doesn't mean we can't get reads from it. Like right now I think you're scum because of your reaction to what I did.