Timeline of Dichotomous Flowers - Game Complete
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My feeling of Vy being town was guts at the time, the last time I addressed it I mentioned that I wasn't caught up with the thread. During the night I reread it and that post in particular stuck out to me like a sore thumb, it doesn't sound right.
We really need to be putting a lot more pressure on Brian IMO, he's been way too quiet, and has been falling under the radar b/c of it - I'm going to stick a vote on him for pressure.
Vote TehBrian
Vote TehBrian
dude stop ripping out ur hair wtf
btw Infected_alien8_ I sincerely apologise for doubting you about omni, which also means I'm probably wrong about purple because she lacks the brain cells to try to lynch fellow mafia meaning she's townie
So with that in mind,
vote purple
So with that in mind,
vote purple
Why don't we lynch the person who has a 100% chance of being Mafia if the cop-dial theory is true (which so far it's been for you/omni and purple/dess if you believe dess)
—— Voting Recap ——
Deadline: 6 April 2019 UTC 22:00.
Deadline: 6 April 2019 UTC 22:00.
Vyryn - 2 (Nottykitten, Infected_Alien8_) [L-5]
Purplepixies - 1 (Aqua) [L-6]
TehBrian - 1 (Stranger from Planet 9) [L-6]
With 12 players, it takes 7 votes to lynch and 6 votes to no-lynch.
If no option reaches the required number of votes when a deadline hits, the day will end as a no-lynch.
I do not have at all the same role as Molten, I'm not the hour hand, and I'm really not sure where they were going with the angels... Or the role name...
I definitely get the feeling that Notty and Inffy are "trying to take me out" perhaps because I'm pretty much the only person who's scumread Notty. Recall that both Notty and Inffy voted me early yesterday and discreetly tried to pull votes off Omni. Inffy was originally in favor of an Omni lynch and Notty was against it, but when it came to actually lynching Omni, both Inffy and Notty were discreetly against it all of yesterday.
I think Notty is a pretty good lynch. They (He?) were closely connected to Omni in my eyes and though I'm still unsure about Inffy, Notty has been scummy all along. Of course, I can see that it doesn't help my impartiality that Notty hasn't stopped pointing a finger at me this whole game.
I'll do a quick review of potential lynches for today.
If we lynch Dess, we can confirm Purple and Notme. Purple softclaimed third party but Dess read her as town aligned, so this one is definitely interesting. But on the other hand Dess's claim had a "too audacious to be made up" feel to it.
If we lynch Notty, we get a lot of information on Inffy, Dess and Aqua. We also take out someone who seems decently likely to be anti-town and who is quite a strong player.
Lynching TehBrian seems silly. He's barely playing this game and he had a believable townie claim.
Lynching purple also seems silly. She's very unlikely to be mafia at this point and aside from the obvious affiliation with Inffy, we don't get much information about anyone else from lynching her.
Lynching Inffy still seems like too much of a toss up. He seems fairly townie.
So I see two fairly good options here, Dess or Notty. Notty has it out for me personally, so I'm going with Notty.
Vote Notty
I definitely get the feeling that Notty and Inffy are "trying to take me out" perhaps because I'm pretty much the only person who's scumread Notty. Recall that both Notty and Inffy voted me early yesterday and discreetly tried to pull votes off Omni. Inffy was originally in favor of an Omni lynch and Notty was against it, but when it came to actually lynching Omni, both Inffy and Notty were discreetly against it all of yesterday.
I think Notty is a pretty good lynch. They (He?) were closely connected to Omni in my eyes and though I'm still unsure about Inffy, Notty has been scummy all along. Of course, I can see that it doesn't help my impartiality that Notty hasn't stopped pointing a finger at me this whole game.
One important thing to note about the cop dial theory is that Purple softclaimed third party able to win with town yesterday.
I'll do a quick review of potential lynches for today.
If we lynch Dess, we can confirm Purple and Notme. Purple softclaimed third party but Dess read her as town aligned, so this one is definitely interesting. But on the other hand Dess's claim had a "too audacious to be made up" feel to it.
If we lynch Notty, we get a lot of information on Inffy, Dess and Aqua. We also take out someone who seems decently likely to be anti-town and who is quite a strong player.
Lynching TehBrian seems silly. He's barely playing this game and he had a believable townie claim.
Lynching purple also seems silly. She's very unlikely to be mafia at this point and aside from the obvious affiliation with Inffy, we don't get much information about anyone else from lynching her.
Lynching Inffy still seems like too much of a toss up. He seems fairly townie.
So I see two fairly good options here, Dess or Notty. Notty has it out for me personally, so I'm going with Notty.
Vote Notty
Care to explain the shift from this post then? You seemed to be reading me as town up until now all of a sudden.
Vote Vyryn
I was the first person to vote Omni starting a bandwagon and only left it once it had 5 people so I could try and get you lynched instead. You're right I was very much against it
That's not at all her softclaim though.
From page 40 to the end of page 43 is where I think vy and brian started to bus their buddy omni. If you want to try to understand what I'm seeing you should probably read those 4 pages yourself since you get a better feel for everything because you're not missing stuff but here are the key elements:
And then his 'contribution' when omni is under heat:
And then notice how brian jumped onto omni as well. He hadn't even read the thread, he mentioned 0 of omni before, but he saw omni being wagoned and jumped on. In my experience of brian he doesn't just vote who the majority are going for just 'because', so once again I wonder if he felt like he had to jump onto his teammate to get credit for it. Although he did do a questionable vote in discord mafia so maybe he does sometimes just do random things without paying attention I guess?
And then there's all of the points I made about vy yesterday (just quoting this post since it sums up a large portion of my points against him and I don't remember if there were any others or where I'd try to look for them):
And then my points against Dess, his fake reads (I really do think they're fake, town reading me despite saying I sound incredibly fake in the same sentence, strongly town reading vy for 'vibes' based off two posts about the clock, being on the fence about omni because 'he's always like this' except this is his second game and he wasn't like this last game either. I expect that from mafia dess, not from town dess.). His tone being really constructed and weird - I just simply don't buy that it's because he trained his communication skills at college. It feels too similar to how he did in previous games when he was mafia (I went back and checked recently). And I think I had another point against him which I'm forgetting but I'll bring it up later if I remember.
So yeah I think these are our last mafia.
Further convincing me of that is the fact that everyone else seems non-mafia. Tim - completely different to when he was mafia last game, I don't think he'd have changed that much in this short amount of time. Notme - similar, he feels town to me, his PR claim posts and his clock theory all point to him being town for me. Aqua - townie tones, trying not to be wrong (imo), the fact he seemed to be blocked by omni, all scream town. Notty - just feels either town or third party. Kropp - out of everyone kropp is the one I'd consider being mafia if my above theory is wrong since he's so lurky, but when he does speak he has a good townie tone. Stranger - same as tim, could see her as third party though. UNU - he's waaaay too careful as mafia to have hammered TWG and accused hk, both non-mafia. purple - feels town, perspective seems really townie.
So yeah. Dess, Brian and Vy are my scumteam guess.
Notice how vy is wanting to get kropp, but as soon as he sees omni get a couple of votes he jumps onto omni. No attempt at trying to push kropp more, he just instantly gives up and later when I asked him why, he said he figured he wouldn't get enough votes there. But did he actually try? Because I don't think he did.
And then his 'contribution' when omni is under heat:
All of those posts of his ping my radar. All of them sound like he's just trying to fit in with the suddenly moving crowd. The last one especially just feels a lot like he's talking to his mafia buddy there. I don't know why, it just does.
And then notice how brian jumped onto omni as well. He hadn't even read the thread, he mentioned 0 of omni before, but he saw omni being wagoned and jumped on. In my experience of brian he doesn't just vote who the majority are going for just 'because', so once again I wonder if he felt like he had to jump onto his teammate to get credit for it. Although he did do a questionable vote in discord mafia so maybe he does sometimes just do random things without paying attention I guess?
And then there's all of the points I made about vy yesterday (just quoting this post since it sums up a large portion of my points against him and I don't remember if there were any others or where I'd try to look for them):
And then there are the points I raised brian too about his entrance feeling nervous and weird, using the '._.' emote and his 'honestly, honestly' - and I recently played a werewolf game with him and he felt really similar there, nervous and weird, and he was wolf, so I wonder if that's a scumtell for him on the forums as well. And his sudden lashing out at me and saying he thinks I'm scummy for only suspecting quiet people after I suspected him, when he'd not even read the rest of the thread so it was a huge 'assumption' to make, makes me think I was onto something, so because of that he had an emotional reaction to get back at me without really considering it, because he felt cornered and needed to scratch back. If he was town I think he'd be a lot calmer because he'd know he had the truth on his side, and in that calmness he wouldn't just assume I was going after only quiet people and go at me.
And then my points against Dess, his fake reads (I really do think they're fake, town reading me despite saying I sound incredibly fake in the same sentence, strongly town reading vy for 'vibes' based off two posts about the clock, being on the fence about omni because 'he's always like this' except this is his second game and he wasn't like this last game either. I expect that from mafia dess, not from town dess.). His tone being really constructed and weird - I just simply don't buy that it's because he trained his communication skills at college. It feels too similar to how he did in previous games when he was mafia (I went back and checked recently). And I think I had another point against him which I'm forgetting but I'll bring it up later if I remember.
So yeah I think these are our last mafia.
Further convincing me of that is the fact that everyone else seems non-mafia. Tim - completely different to when he was mafia last game, I don't think he'd have changed that much in this short amount of time. Notme - similar, he feels town to me, his PR claim posts and his clock theory all point to him being town for me. Aqua - townie tones, trying not to be wrong (imo), the fact he seemed to be blocked by omni, all scream town. Notty - just feels either town or third party. Kropp - out of everyone kropp is the one I'd consider being mafia if my above theory is wrong since he's so lurky, but when he does speak he has a good townie tone. Stranger - same as tim, could see her as third party though. UNU - he's waaaay too careful as mafia to have hammered TWG and accused hk, both non-mafia. purple - feels town, perspective seems really townie.
So yeah. Dess, Brian and Vy are my scumteam guess.
I mean you may be right and that omni could behave in the same way as a townie and he was just in a meme-y mood last game. So while my 'slight suspicion' was correct, my reasons might have been bogus anyways.
And why are you voting purple after saying you think she's town?
I was pushing for omni's lynch until he was like 2 votes from being hammered and then I decided you were more likely to be scum. If I didn't want to lynch omni to begin with, I wouldn't have helped to put him in the spotlight from the start. Starting a wagon and then hoping I can switch it last second seems incredibly risky.
Can you quote where me and notty were 'discreetly against it all of yesterday'?
Really? Where?
Call me a sheeple, but I'm easily swayed by walls of text (that make sense). Particularly, I think it's a great observation by inf to pick up on the bussing (I'm not observant enough to see it for myself). I'm less sold on Brian and Dess...I still find myself believing Dess. But looking at the people who were insistent on purple yesterday (Aqua, Dess, and myself), it would make sense that at least one of us is scum (like talked about yesterday).
I obviously know it isn't me, and between Aqua and Dess I trust Aqua more. Turns out, it's a lot easier to like Aqua when he isn't being obnoxious.
I got a little distracted there. Bottom line: Inf did a good job of convincing me that Vyryn is mafia.
I obviously know it isn't me, and between Aqua and Dess I trust Aqua more. Turns out, it's a lot easier to like Aqua when he isn't being obnoxious.
I got a little distracted there. Bottom line: Inf did a good job of convincing me that Vyryn is mafia.
How can fake reads not be anti-town?