A response to iggish
The voting was just a coincidence.
Yes, it could be. Still making me suspicious.
Well since mulb didn't get lynched, I'll assume that you are talking about the aqua lynch. If anything, your suspicions of ender should've increased after that. After all, despite what he says, it is evident that they were backing each other up. Whether this means that he is mafia or not, it doesn't matter, you shouldn't just overlook it.
I meant the
Mulb nightkill, not the Aqua lynch. The Aqua lynch only confirmed my theory about that you, Ender, Foggy and Aqua were mafias, with the exception of Foggy, which I honestly thought was quite weird . However, once Mulbery was killed I understood that my theory was too simple, while I also couldn't understand why Mul was voting for lynching his own mafia member. As I have said before, I believe these two reasons might be why Mul voted for Aqua:
1. Weak also is a mafia, and therefore Mulbery could vote for the person which would make him less suspicious. Either way it would “help” the town, and it would then also make person he did not vote for less suspicious. It could make us want to vote against Ender, Oak, Iggish, HKCaper and Caffe. However, he could as well have done the same to us with lynching Weak, and create suspicions around me, Infected, Notty, Ooglie and Foggy. Honestly, I think that would be a smarter move, since most of the people who voted for Weak seemed to have a very clear opinion.
2. Weak is a non-mafia, and Mulbery believed that it would take too many mafia votes to lynch him. Therefore, they instead could split their votes, and make they look less like a team, even though they had to sacrifise Aqua. If they lynched Weak, they could have thought that the Vigilante could easily track one of them, and that we could see a pattern the next day.
For both reasons, I saw Ender being in a position where he easily could be either lynched or Vigkilled (if we didn't know that Mul was a mafia). Also, when someone then tries to (as what I believe) create suspicions around him, saying he was buddying up with Aqua, I started to look at my points against him which were kinda weak at the time. I kinda started to slightly town-read him. I am not overlooking anyone, and even though it might look so (to you at least), I am always skeptical to what people do, regardless of what role I think they have.
First of all, I thought there were head mafia, there aren't, so me making that point ofcourse makes it weak. In my opinion, weak has been trying to bring attention away from inf but did not succeed, (Remember his blatant defence of inf). Weak has also made "very weak" points.
What I thought was weird, was that weak defended Infected, and that somehow made you think that Infected was a "head mafia". Not thinking about what you thought he was, but how you made that connection.
Also how is it interesting that I'm trying to make him look suspicious?
I find it interesting that you are trying make him more suspicious than he already is by stating he had no good points and just town-read Infected, and asking questions which he just answered in his paragraph.
Well, since you have come with many theories and statements, which seems to be totally wrong or unlogical (to me at least) without any sort of proofs, I feel like they could be attempts to create suspicions around certain people. I feel like some of your theories could be made up (with your mafia team, if you are one), and it is impossible to either prove or disprove. There have been many questionable statements you have come with as well. I would like to see quotes and prooves for the following, if you can find any:
Unu seems to be defending weak and infected in that post IMO while seeming to be a bit suspicious of everyone else.
Personally, I'd be more inclined to think that unu is mafia provided that TWG is mafia. He has seemed to defend him on quite a few occasions.
(this was early day 2, and Iggish have yet to come with any sort of proofs even though I asked for)
Is this just some bs strategy to take attention away from the fact that you the one buddying up to aqua in day 1?
4. Then when you came under fire (now I was really getting suspicious because he still hadn't responded to my points against him), out of the blue he defended you making no good points except that he town read you.
The voting was just a coincidence. You say that after the mulb lynch, your suspicion of ender died down. Well since mulb didn't get lynched, I'll assume that you are talking about the aqua lynch. If anything, your suspicions of ender should've increased after that. After all, despite what he says, it is evident that they were backing each other up.
Also also, unu saying that I might have been voting at the same time as ender to back him up seems to be something he is doing atm.
Here are two of your theories (+ the one you have on me, weak and Inf), which I also found weak.
This sounds kinda far fetched. Also, another thing you did on day 1 was kill aqua to again bring the suspicion off you that you and aqua were teaming. This could be because you knew that Aqua was mafia (because you yourself may be mafia) and was going to be lynched and so you did not want to associate yourself with Aqua, consequently killing them off
Also with only less then one hour left until the deadline, why would you vote Aqua unless it would benefit you somehow? Makign the day 40 minutes or so shorter us a pretty shitty excuse.
I mean, you'd look scummy by not being able to justify a vote at all. Idk if you just said that to shitpost but please give me your reasons.
"I'm confused - why does the fact that I found hip to be suspicious re-enforce the theory that I'm mafia? I'm the mafia, I know who's evil and who isn't...? I mean you could argue I thought that hip was cultist but as mafia why would I care so much about the cult to waste our N1 kill on them?" -Inf
Well you said that you know when hip is mafia because they act differently. You were suspicious of them and as a result, trying to get other people to lynch hip. My guess is that you wanted hip killed and so did it with your mafioso buddies at night.
(Also, can someone tell me if hip is a good mafia player? If inf (not even him necessarily, anyone) knew that hip was not on their team then they'd try to take out the most influential players even though they might not have had a strong role.)
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Also, you can say that I'm shifting suspicion onto you, but I wasn't even suspicious of you until you started defending a person who was acting really scummy.
Well, that is another interesting statement. If you are talking about Weak, I don't recall defending him, not even close to, before you made this post here, where you mention I am one of your 4 mafia players (the post below). This post was posted on page 43, middle. Now please find where I was defending weak before that, because I believe your statement is a completly lie.
Ikr, I thought I had it all thought out. In my head the mafia team was inf, weak, unu, notty and idk for the fifth. I was so sure that they were workign together as a mafia team because of their defence of inffy and some other stuff. If I recall correctly, neither of these 4 were friendly towards Aqua at all (most voted for an aqua lynch) so does that then mean they're town?
And it's not just like they voted aqua to make everyone think they were inno, they could've bandwagoned on TWG to do that. But idk, I'm so confused rn.
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Since Aqua was lynched, I guess inf (probably) isn't *cries* a mafia after all. This probably also means that TWG isn't a mafia, although there may still be a motive as to why TWG defended inf for no apprent good reason.
Inf could be a cult leader and has recruited TWG, idk.
Also, are there now 3 people each in the two cults?
Also, I am wondering. You voted for lynching Jivvi - was townie, you town-read Aqua - was mafia, you mafia-read Notty - is cult leader, and still seem to continue with the same plan as in day 1. What makes you now so sure that we are mafias, not making any similar mistakes again (if you are townie)?
