Can you both make one post about why we should lynch the other?
i'll try my best
Alright most of his reads came from reactions he got from people, about him not speaking:
-he townread danni and jivvi since they seemed to think inffy wasnt in the game at all.
-he townread notty since she seemed 'too eager' to play it off as inf being busy
-he townread mulb and dess, because, while they did draw attention to it, his gut told them they were town
-he found oog and unu kinda suspicious in how they adressed inffy not talking, but perhaps it was too obivous to be scum
-he was suspicious of jolt, it seemed as if jolt tried people to notice inffy wasnt talking as an attempt to raise suspicion on inf
some last notices, since inffy wanted me to also tell this:
-"I'd also like you to tell Jivvi that the reason I'm here is because the reason I was abstaining from joining was due to what seems to be a misunderstandin"
-inffy also thought i was kinda suspicious, but only based on vibes
if need be i can try to give a bit more explanation, but this is the summary of his reads (he kinda made a long post oof)
WAIT, i realized i had forgotten inffy also provided a 'proof' of being lynched. when looking back at it this 'proof', it actually makes sense
yesterday we started the game with 21 players. normally that would mean it'd take 11 vote to fire and 11 to no fire, HOWEVER
if you look back, it only took 10 votes to no fire. this is because inffy, then probably being silenced, wasnt able to vote, hence causing us to need 1 less vote for a no fire.
hk: asks inf if he’s gonna pull a classic weird inf strat d1
hk: -gets pretty salty saying that he wishes he didn’t sign up and ASKS ME TO AGREE ON EVERYTHING & also clarifies things for inf finally-
-aaaa to prevent multiquote form trapping me-
ok SO idk if you guys are expecting some genius post from me but i think the primary thing to understand is that a lot of my instincts against hk come from the floor chat itself, like the paraphrasing doesn't BRING ACROSS how scummy it was like from the source y'know but out of what's been given i'll TRY MY BEST
quote #1
things i dont like about this post:
1) it misses his suspicions on 77 and hip
2) he says inf found him 'kinda suspicious' based purely on 'vibes'
for numero uno, this has 2 possible reasons for me
- they were on separate posts rather than his long suspicion one
- they were intentionally left out
why is the separate posts thing significant? well, i could still remember all of inf's reads from that chat since i found it likely that he wasn't mafia (still possibly third party) and inf is annoyingly pretty accurate on his reads the majority of the time. hk, however, missed these which implies he wasn't really paying attention to the night chat since he didn't care about getting info from inf's reads since he's GUILTY and either knew at that point they were going to nightkill inf anyway or just knew he didn't need them since he already knows his entire mafia team from the get-go. alternatively hk isnt as much as a saddo as me and just forgot he said these since they were in smaller posts and backed up with little to no evidence rather than vibes:tm: this argument is pretty weak, obviously, since my main basis against him is mostly vibes:tm: as well (look you had to BE THERE to understand)
and intentionally left out, under the assumption that hk is mafia (what i truly feel in my heart!), since it would not out two of his mafia cohorts and would require me to speak out against him (lest i remember inf saying these things) even though i was pretty adamant in the night chat that i believed theres an antitown role that can kill us with this info and so wanted to stay hush anyway. 77's behaviour s l i g h t l y makes sense when applying it to this since he says he finds neither me or hk as suspicious (a few others said this, unu & comp stand out in my memory) and we should vote other people - it is in mafia's best interest to not lynch hk (they lose a member this early into game) or lynch me (when i flip as town the maths:tm: says that hk is p r o b a b l y mafia and so will probs get lynched the next day, i suspect investigated by a cop or tracker or something tonight (if i would get lynched today pls dont do that thanks). while hip has been vibing as weird for inf and i believe i've seen it mentioned by others today as well he is literally voting hk rn and was also against sploorky so they're literally my opinions so he might be bussing hk anyway but i don't think that his behaviour today stands out as particularly suspicious (other than seeming more disengaged in this game than prior ones for some reason)
for numero two, well i think this was summed up pretty well in paraphrased chat - inf wasn't 'kinda' suspicious against hk, he was very suspicious of hk of being mafia (and me of being autocrat but still my reasoning for appearing weird in night chat is since i wanted to not get murdered by hk so i could SEE THE INTERACTIONS BETWEEN HIM AND THE OTHERS ON UHT'S LIST (btw my faith in this theory has sort of declined since i found out arelic and hk are involved in smp, i only knew the connection between uht, danni, jolt and notty) and i was messing with inf since it was pretty fun to see him crumble) and not purely based on vibes, also based on quite a number of suspicious things he said in the night chat and on that note may i bring the attention to the jury to quotes 3 and 4
#3 im sorry but THIS IS JUST SO :thinking: WHEN THE NEXT NIGHT IT IS REVEALED INF WAS SILENCED LIKE ???
'but oog thats so out there why would he incriminate himself like that'
well there would be no better glory than literally leaving a hint like that when mafia and hoping that nobody picks up on it until you've won the game and reveal it and are like HAHAHA SUCKERS I SAID IT RIGHT THERE
also WIFOM
'but oog surely YOU could have read that message and then silenced inf that night to incriminate hk you MAFIA SCUM'
uh yeah that holds up i guess but i didn't i swear!
#4 the response seemed so like BAM and unnecessary, like inf was being a bit dumb there but there was logic there and idk the response just seemed so unexpected and like he cracked but tbh you guys witnessed me in this thread literally break down but that's more just my amazing mental state that suits my behaviour it was just uncharacteristic of hk & after i sucked up to him in night chat he was asking for my agreement more often like he knew he could just rely on me to argue against inf like i was nothing but a PAWN well SURPRISE i was master minding everything! still i can't figure out why mafia (im assuming it was mafia since THE SK CANT KILL PEOPLE WHO HAVENT CLAIMED FLOOR!!!!!!) decided to kill inf after all that tho like i feel like him being alive would have worked in their favour better but who knows - also evidence that mafia may have not killed inf is that inf was likely silenced again (unless its like a biweekly thing or they targeted nobody or they were blocked) so why would they kill and silence the same person so MAYBE A DIFFERENT PERSON KILLED INF who knows
ok to quote #2
i was genuinely so confused the entire time hk was being (dumbly) accused of making the silencing thing up as to why he wasn't bringing up this vote count thing that aqua literally confirmed to us was intentional (not whether it was specifically linked to the alleged silencing or not) and the only reason i can think of (other than he forgot) is that in his head the idea that a silencer existed was just a fact since they're on the mafia team together/he is the silencer (im assuming silencer is mafia and not third party since there really isnt any use in a third party silencer) and so he didn't really need to have evidence to back it up for himself personally and hence also forgot it pretty easily from night chat (he did directly respond to this evidence in the night chat so) since, again, he already had his own fact and didnt need inf to support it for himself
ok so these quotes are pretty flimsy arguments i'll give you that and like the scuminess came off so much more in the night chat idk how i can convey that more & these quotes are pretty much reliant on hk having a decent memory which can't really be proven so
other reasons for my suspicions on hk:
1) inf died
- inf had suspicions on hk (and me!) and a number of other people and if these were mostly accurate then killing him would be in his team's best interests or else he could just keep on coming up with more accurate reads and ripperoni
- inf was in HR chat and inf was the only one who specifically replied to hk in nightchat when he said 'our roles probably link to HR' or whatever saying like 'well obviously why are you asking that' meaning there was a definite link between inf and a department that specialises in well-being and in mafia the most likely link between these two is a doctor (i mean my role name links to HR but not my abilities) and so hk could have told his mafia team and gone with the hope and be annoyingly correct!
HOWEVER both of these rely on the fact that mafia killed inf which as i pointed out before does have flaws in it
2) UHT'S LIST
- yes my suspicion on this has faded after learning arelic and hk are actually linked to smp BUT I STILL CAN'T SHAKE THAT LINGERING FEELING OF :eyes: BY IT AND I KEEP ON DRAWING UP CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THE BEHAVIOUR OF THE PEOPLE ON THAT LIST IN THE THREAD AND UGH THIS IS ANNOYING
still not convinced??? well consider this!
the only other people in this thread that have proper like EVIDENCE against them is the whole top-floor chat people but they seem to be mainly keeping this a secret to discuss amongst themselves this night meaning that they don't want eachother dead today leaving the only two real viable choices as me and hk
if we no fire then its like a wasted day and i dislike that
if either me or hk are lynched, the alignment that the person flips should be a pretty strong indication of the other persons AND it will help support whether there is a mafia on each floor or not AND we'll see what happens if everyone but one person from a floor is dead - like do we get relocated to another floor or something or just have a nice night chat with aqua and inf on our barren floor
if you're still not convinced well fine but i think that your choices are either me or hk & i acknowledge that a lot of these arguments are flimsy to say the least but they're SOMETHING and like i said IT JUST VIBES SO MUCH HARDER IN NIGHT CHAT
like i can gladly say that if hk doesn't flip mafia today i will send myself to the lynching/firing block tomorrow THATS HOW STRONGLY I FEEL IT IN MY GUT
i feel like a tryhard making this long post oops
