[Brainstorm] New ideas for the next SMP server
- Thread starter Rune
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no shitty roleplay this time
let the players make their own story
pure SMP4-style
basically a small step above vanilla
let the players make their own story
pure SMP4-style
basically a small step above vanilla
but where else am I supposed to be a pacifist argonian warlord who has a history of failure, trying to scrap up the remains of post apocalyptic Malaysia for his own deviant pleasures?
Truth be told, I don't think it should have any of unnecessary gimmicks.
I think it should more or less just be a standard survival server with anti-griefing, basic clans, and a few PvP zones scattered throughout the map.
Basically, that SMP server that came before JtE- I forgot the exact name- without the headache of someone randomly vivisecting you with a diamond sword while you just wanted to take a casual walk through a dangerous jungle full of evil things and giant ledges.
I think it should more or less just be a standard survival server with anti-griefing, basic clans, and a few PvP zones scattered throughout the map.
Basically, that SMP server that came before JtE- I forgot the exact name- without the headache of someone randomly vivisecting you with a diamond sword while you just wanted to take a casual walk through a dangerous jungle full of evil things and giant ledges.
Personally, I don't think this is a good idea for a standard survival server. See, while I can't speak for everyone else, I know that the only reason I personally, as well as a few others, even bother with Minecraft's multiplayer is for that social element that can only really exist in a game like Minecraft. Ya know, the 'Who-built-this-awesome-castle''s and the 'Does-anyone-want-to-go-mining?'s. I feel like only local chat would kind of ruin that.
That's just my opinion, though.
While it is an interesting idea, previous smps have allowed the player to opt into a local chat only by ignoring global chat by some silly command. Players would find a way around this chat barrier I.e ts if we were to get rid of main chat, and it would more or less hellish to moderate from an operator's perspective. We will most likely have it voluntary if we use the same chat system.
I think this is the best idea so far...
It was just more fun when you actually had a chance.
with 1.8, it will be a bit easier to enchant, rename, and repair items, so it won't be too hard for more people to get sharp 5 and prot 4 on everything. the only real thing that could bring up balance issues is the rarity of diamonds, rather than finding a source of experience, especially when the end gets loaded with xp grinders.
However you forget a players next enchantment is seeded, so there are no more random elements to enchanting, as well as the secondary cost.
While enchanting is easier the overall process is more time consuming considering the secondary material needed and the fact you cant just throw in level 30 and hope for top tier enchants as xxx enchant is your fate if you level 1 or level 30. Though I've yet to look too deep into the new mechanics.
New mechanics make life easier as far as enchanting go.
To clear it up.
While it now takes lapis lazuli to enchant items.
This is counterbalanced by actual enchants being cheaper.
You still need to hit level 30 for top tier enchants.
You only lose 3 levels for tier 3 enchanting.
You can also choose between any of the three tiers and get a new set of enchantments, meaning if your tier 3 enchantment is rubbish, you can select a tier 1 or tier 2 enchantment and it will then give you new enchantments for all tiers.
You can also sometimes pull some sneaky shenanigans with bookshelves whereby changing the bookshelves that can access the enchantment table will sometimes change what enchantment you get, due to changing the exp level tiers.
Repairing enchanted items is also far cheaper now.
Also, renaming items is no longer excessively expensive (1.4 - 1.7.9, renaming something = 7 levels. 1.8 - ???, renaming something = 1 level)
So now we don't have to kill 20 zombies just to rename one sword.
Also, using lapis for enchanting is a nice bonus because it used to just come out as useless for anything other than decoration and would clutter up many chests if not condensed.
So now we don't have to kill 20 zombies just to rename one sword.
Also, using lapis for enchanting is a nice bonus because it used to just come out as useless for anything other than decoration and would clutter up many chests if not condensed.
To be honest, I like the keep inventory idea more than the idea of clearing inventory when you die. The reason for this is quite simply to level the PVP situation out. If you die, you will need to redo your whole inventory, making the winner more stronger because there are weaker opponents. Another issue with wiping would be dying from something else other than PVP, which is already annoying on RoF and would be even more annoying on the SMP server.
Overall, I prefer the keep items instead of clear inventory on death.
Overall, I prefer the keep items instead of clear inventory on death.
Wouldn't mind something a little more simple then the last couple servers. I personally would enjoy some thing like smp 4 where it is very PvP based with villages. I'm not a fan of something with tons of plugins that bend the rules of the game.
That works half the same way. The point of keep inventory vs pvp is that players who enjoy pvp won't have to get their stuff again after they die, they can keep at it for hours and have fun even when losing. Players who don't enjoy pvp can't lose anything but some time from it, so it's a much less punishing experience and people will get over it a lot faster and easier.
If there's a way to use keep inventory for pvp but drop inventory from mob deaths, that would be best of both worlds I think.
Players who enjoy killing people just to take their things are rotten little children and won't get anything from Santa. :)
regular keep inventory would be nice, thanks.
My reasoning is simply two things:
1.
remember when we did the end DoD event? Everyone kept having their inventories scrambled amongst each other, and I'm pretty sure that only the select few (if any) who didn't die had their original inventories.
2.
player traps are a good way to promote laziness, as a lot of them typically kill people and take their stuff.
I would appreciate the reasoning behind doing this more, except that most player traps I found were disguised as XP farms in the end, rather than being a defense mechanism.
My reasoning is simply two things:
1.
remember when we did the end DoD event? Everyone kept having their inventories scrambled amongst each other, and I'm pretty sure that only the select few (if any) who didn't die had their original inventories.
2.
player traps are a good way to promote laziness, as a lot of them typically kill people and take their stuff.
I would appreciate the reasoning behind doing this more, except that most player traps I found were disguised as XP farms in the end, rather than being a defense mechanism.
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I know that it's probably necroposting, what with no one having written in here since last year, but I suggest that there's some sort of brawling event that occurs wherever spawn is every weekend in a sealed off area as an opportunity for controlled pvp.