So here is my post about Aqua vs Inffy:
- ill try to keep it to the point
- here wont be any quotes (maybe just 1) for obvious reasons that i'd have to quote like 50 messages which would get tedious, if anyone really wants to have a quote for a certain thing i say, dont be afraid to ask
- ill also be voting one of them at the end, but ill try to keep the post kind of objective, incase other people want to form an opinion themselves
- ill be using a table to kind off make it chronologic, i hope the layou works
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{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}Aqua{/td}
{td=@x15}Inffy{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x30}
{td=326x30}-says he didnt bandwagon, but was merely pressuring inffy by his post{/td}
{td=@x30}-Claims aqua is scum for bandwagoning early on (backed by Notty){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x46}
{td=326x46}
-says that the post were inffy started talking again and his explanation for what he did was weak (BUT NOT WHY IT WAS WEAK)
notty disagrees with this claim{/td}
{td=@x46}-explains to aqua why he used his silence tactic, namely as conversation starter, as he explained prior{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x30}
{td=326x30}-claims inffy's tactic was not a townie thing to do (but that is his only real argument so far){/td}
{td=@x30}-claims he always planned to speak at some point day 1{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}-accuses Inffy for missquoting aqua (THIS ONE IS IMPORTANT){/td}
{td=@x15}-Asks aqua were he missquoted him.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x30}
{td=326x30}-Aqua makes 2 statements: "so you only think im scum, because i think you are" and "nobody else got reads from your tactic"{/td}
{td=@x30}- gives examples how he got reads from his tacitc. gives answers to aqua's statements (i personally think they were good answers){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x46}
{td=326x46}- Aqua says inffy's tactic was dumb, and questions how anyone could possible get any leads from it. calls inffy hypocrit for accusing aqua of ignoring questions.{/td}
{td=@x46}-inffy accuses aqua for ignoring his questions: the missquoting, and a question about what Paige said that aqua found a strong statement (aqua said this at some point){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}-general claiming he answered inffy's questions, but cba's to get quotes for it. also giving vague answers to some questions and stalling to answer others.{/td}
{td=@x15}-clearly states the questions he wants aqua to answer{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}-in turn says inffy is actually getting caught in web of lies, but doesnt provide any reasoning{/td}
{td=@x15}- says aqua is getting caught in a web of lies and gives quotes from the oak/arelic situation earlier on (do people remember this?){/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}-claims inffy is making aqua look scum, no matter what he says or does.{/td}
{td=@x15}-votes aqua{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x15}
{td=326x15}-here answers the question about paige, but says what he said earlier was a lie, and that paige didnt make a strong statement, but rather a decent one (doesnt give the statement){/td}
{td=@x15}-notty supports inffy, votes aqua as well, says his silence tactic was neither town or scum{/td}
{/tr}
{tr}
{td=326x@}-says kys to inffy, and claims being really tired (got a quote here){/td}
{td}--calls aqua out for STILL ignoring the missquoting question inffy had.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x30}
{td=326x30}-aqua finally gives the bit were inffy missquoted him (I DISAGREE WITH THIS, INFFY DIDNT MISSQUOTE IMO){/td}
{td=@x30}-asks aqua why that was missquoting.{/td}
{/tr}
{tr=@x10}
{td=326x10}- tries to give some answers to some other questions, but is really vague about it, and claims he has quotes, but cant put them in because the forum is acting up{/td}
{td=@x10}-calls out aqua for vague responses and still not giving the Paige quote. (IT ENDS HERE, AFTER THIS THEIR CONVO SEEMS TO END){/td}
{/tr}
{/tbody}
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well here it is. rereading i think the objective part might not have worked out great, but you'll still be able to form your own opinion.
i think it is also obvious who i will be voting. aqua has been vague overall in his replies, stalling, refusing to give answers, not wanting to quote, making up excuses etc. So he either got himself in a really nasty spot as a townie, or he is straight up scum.
Vote Aqua
Since notty made the meme I'm gonna call out HK ON THIS CNN FAKE NEWS I'VE INCREASED FONT SIZE SO ITS 'UGE BUT THESE ARE THE LIES AND SLANDERS PUT AGAINST ME, I WILL MAKE ESCAPERESTART GREAT AGAIN.
I'm confused why Hk would so strongly cling to inf if they were both mafia as, as soon as one flips the other immidiately looks scummy but watching Hk's plays in previous games personally I'll put this down to /rookie/ error.
So yeah just to quickly analyse the lies Hk has published:
-Claims I didn't give an explanation for why I think infs defence for what he did was "weak" (weird somewhat
manipulative choice of words but OK)
Which is a really bad defence, because A) it would make sense for the censor to target inf again as to force suspicion towards him to make him seem as if he were lying, because censoring anyone else would instantly almost 100% prove a censor exists (except for if the second point happened, although outing one as mafia would not prove there wasn't a 3rd party censor who was maf sided)
and B) because... what? Like why would a townie pretend to be censored it makes no sense what so ever. And please don't give me the bullshit defence that he never confirmed it by rating a post so he didn't technically lie because he saw the posts and chose to ignore them.
This entire thing makes no sense unless inf is some jester role who has to lie in order to get lynched which could make sense having some lying, political suicide role in a game about capitalism but yeah
I'm convinced there is no way a townie taking the game serious wouldn't announce they weren't censored immediately, so I'm keeping my vote on inf as he's clearly some form of non-town role or trolling both of which are detrimental
...Also notty never disagreed with that post, she didn't respond to it. She disagreed when I made a post asking people to stop focusing on the dumb shit between notty and iggish (And yes I think both of them were going off on wild goose chases) and read into inf.
-That was me singing Nirvana, not an actual point. I addressed this already. In the offchance inf isn't scum he's just a very weird townie... which after sleeping on it I'm starting to feel more and more, still dont think it was a good strategy, if it were a strategy but eh. (INB4 oh now ur trying to back down cus the spotlights on you, ur clearly scum XD).
-In the post where I say infs the one getting caught in the web of lies I proved evidence to back up myself so I have absolutely no idea how you could have not seen that, unless you're obviously trying to twist the truth:
No, but you are:
"I think you copied what Oak said as a way to fit in with town"
Firstly you accuse me of being scummy and copying Oak to fit in with town, now you're saying that my post was thing like Oaks.
I made the mistake of not going back and rereading mine and oaks post and yes, I can now see it looks pretty scummy. But at the time I hadn't realised.
However, right now it seems ur changing ur argument to make me look suspicious whatever the outcome. You forcing suspicion onto me as if you want me to be lynched regardless of whether I'm townie or not.
- I did not claim to be really tired, I said I'll be annoyed if I get lynched for my post when I was tired refering to my observations on Claire which sparked everything ( I will give you the benefit of the doubt and believe that you just /misread/ my post instead of trying to twist the truth again).
-Finally my arse, the main reason why I didn't post them again is because I addressed the misquoting when it happened. It's not like I suddenly accused him of misquoting out of nowhere, I accused him of that after first seeing his large 2k word post.
-Not really vague, just disgruntled and rushed cus I wanted to go in the shower. I just looked at them and they still make sense to me. The typing in all caps was a meme to vent my frustration about inf badgering me, you dont have to take it seriously.
-Finally I'd like to address how hilariously hypocritical your point about me failing to find a quote because the quoting on the forum is garbage whilst providing no quotes yourself and just leaving parenthesis saying "I have a quote".
I might move off inf onto HK but
Infected_alien8_ you wanted reason why I'm susp of HK. There you go <3
