The Economy of Madness - Game Complete!

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Notme

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basically he seems really stiff and serious and in his mafia meta imo, and my conversations with him have left me with a scum impression as well

also his role claim doesn't change my mind about him since I could see the mafia having that role as well since everyone benefits from actions being lowered in price presumably?

and he called people suspecting him idiots which seems like I struck a chord and am onto something and he's got extra annoyance coming out of that
IDK why but I'm always read as scum in mafia games lol.
No one cared about me in previous game lol.
 

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what do you mean by 'psuedo'

and how many coins does it drain you by?
*Going to work I can explain more later*

I said pseudo because I imagine a full body guard would always be able to protect as opposed to me only in the lower half.

There is also a certain gimmick to my role that I'm not claiming just yet.

It'll drain the coins the attack takes
Ie: somebody steals 15 I would instead lose those 15 / somebody gets all coins taken I get all mine taken.

But no really I actually have to get to work now so I can't respond further
 

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thats 12/18 of the actives (hk included now!)
of the 6 NAY SAYERS i can think of aqua tim omni poke but not the other 2
i still want fantome/mario/molten to claim but theyre all just unresponsive
 

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thats 12/18 of the actives (hk included now!)
of the 6 NAY SAYERS i can think of aqua tim omni poke but not the other 2
i still want fantome/mario/molten to claim but theyre all just unresponsive
wait i miscounted since UNU was in caps
so 13/18
and the 5 nay sayers are aqua tim omni poke kroppeb (i swear kropp claimed but i might be wrong)
 

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honestly i don't really believe that raxo is maf but i'll concede that there is a possibility and i kinda want to see a lynch so

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Raxos claim genuinely seems like it could be a legit role specialised for the game, that's a lot of creativity from raxo so I kinda think he is telling the truth. A lynch is better than a no lynch but if the lynchee is almost certainly town then that changes things. I'd like to hear more people's opinions on raxo but at the same time I don't see us reaching a lynch before day end anyways
 

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So here are my reads

Aqua - Sort of neutral at the moment. While he has been very against massclaiming which I certaintly find suspicious, I believe mafias in general would try to stay more under the radar rather than making themselves suspicious like that, and possibly would 'accept the defeat' and go along with the massclaim instead. If this anyone else than Aqua then I would probably have been more suspicious, since he often tends to get into problems like this so for now Im not sure.

Dess - Neutral. Not sure if I entirely believe his claim, as it is a role which if he was lying he could just say he visited another player than the one(s) that got killed, and stranger also claimed jailer which can protect so it's not like we are missing a protection role. I must admit that I haven't followed too much of what he has said so neutral read on him for the moment.

Enderfive - Town. His behaviour comes across to me as similar to the other times I have played with him (mostly town, but also harmless third parties). Also while some might think his 'vig' claim was weird, it should be noted that if he isn't vigilante but is mafia or third party, then a possible vigilante could easily kill him as well as either mafias or possible third party killing roles, depending on his alignment. And thats why Im quite certain he wouldn't fake this and is most certaintly town.

Notme - Suspicious. I did find his "I don't want to massclaim yet" very suspicious at the time for two reasons 1) it to me seemed like mafias (before he said this) were afraid of a massclaim, and when he said so it seemed like he had been trying to stay under radar, but was forced to join the massclaim-or-not discussion just to avoid a massclaim=big trouble for mafias. 2) Notme was one of the players I imagined wouldn't care whether it ended up with a massclaim or not, so that felt out of the ordinary to me. I don't think he has been playing particularly suspicious after that (compared to earlier games I have played with him), but considering his claim as well I think he is our best option if we're going to lynch today.

Infected_alien8_ - Town. While he at times seems sort of uncertain of his reads or who he wants lynched(which I don't think I have seen too much of in earlier games iirc) he is an uncc cop. Aqua had a good point about that with Infecteds odd role name that could mean it isn't an ordinary cop, so that is noteworthy for later.

Ltin - Slight town. Im not too sure what to make of Ltins action as Im not sure how we would use the info from his role. Possibly it can be used to figure out approxiomately how many mafia actions there are? Anyway, I did at first find the way he said he didn't want to claim his role somewhat suspicious, but his behaviour in general and my intuition give me the feeling that he is town.

Mischief - Town. Weird claim, but then again I could see why he/she? didn't want a massclaim considering his suspicious claim. He also was the first or one of the first (don't remember the exact order) to claim his role name and apparently more people have a [generic name] as role name so that makes me believe him. In addition, while I haven't played with him before Im getting this very strong town feeling from his posts in general.

Mooglie - Neutral. He has contributed a lot for the massclaim and also claimed his name early, but then again I could see his role as mafia where he causes problems for town PRs by making their role triple as expensive.

Omni - Suspicious. Haven't seen how he plays as town yet, but Im getting the same vibes from him similar like last game. He is active, but doesn't seem to be contrubuting much and also is against a massclaim and seems very set on lynching Notty for some reason so he would be my number 2 choice after Notme in todays lynch.

Mulbery/Stranger - Its possible that one of these could be mafia since one role blocker and one jailer seems quite powerful on the same side, but then again Mulbery said his action was expensive so that could perhaps have been a move from Alisha to unproblematically include them both. However if they are both town I am assuming mafias have very powerful roles.

Nottykitten - Slight town. Could be a mafia watcher so that's something to watch out for, but I'm getting town vibes from her, and she claimed her name early from what I remember so I'm leaning towards town.

Timdood3 - Slightly suspicious. He did say this: "I think notty and inf are both just townies arguing from different perspectives", which might be genuine but I also feel they might have been attempt at recieving townie poinst if Infected or Notty (however this relies on them both being town) got lynched (I believe they had most votes at the time). Also he claimed his role name late and hasn't claimed his role yet, but then again he has been contributing to the discussion so not sure if that means he is mafia.

The rest - Don't have a particular read on yet.

Like I said I find Notme the best choice for todays lynch, and it also seems like he is the likeliest option that might reach enough votes anyway

Vote Notme
 

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So here are my reads

Aqua - Sort of neutral at the moment. While he has been very against massclaiming which I certaintly find suspicious, I believe mafias in general would try to stay more under the radar rather than making themselves suspicious like that, and possibly would 'accept the defeat' and go along with the massclaim instead. If this anyone else than Aqua then I would probably have been more suspicious, since he often tends to get into problems like this so for now Im not sure.

Dess - Neutral. Not sure if I entirely believe his claim, as it is a role which if he was lying he could just say he visited another player than the one(s) that got killed, and stranger also claimed jailer which can protect so it's not like we are missing a protection role. I must admit that I haven't followed too much of what he has said so neutral read on him for the moment.

Enderfive - Town. His behaviour comes across to me as similar to the other times I have played with him (mostly town, but also harmless third parties). Also while some might think his 'vig' claim was weird, it should be noted that if he isn't vigilante but is mafia or third party, then a possible vigilante could easily kill him as well as either mafias or possible third party killing roles, depending on his alignment. And thats why Im quite certain he wouldn't fake this and is most certaintly town.

Notme - Suspicious. I did find his "I don't want to massclaim yet" very suspicious at the time for two reasons 1) it to me seemed like mafias (before he said this) were afraid of a massclaim, and when he said so it seemed like he had been trying to stay under radar, but was forced to join the massclaim-or-not discussion just to avoid a massclaim=big trouble for mafias. 2) Notme was one of the players I imagined wouldn't care whether it ended up with a massclaim or not, so that felt out of the ordinary to me. I don't think he has been playing particularly suspicious after that (compared to earlier games I have played with him), but considering his claim as well I think he is our best option if we're going to lynch today.

Infected_alien8_ - Town. While he at times seems sort of uncertain of his reads or who he wants lynched(which I don't think I have seen too much of in earlier games iirc) he is an uncc cop. Aqua had a good point about that with Infecteds odd role name that could mean it isn't an ordinary cop, so that is noteworthy for later.

Ltin - Slight town. Im not too sure what to make of Ltins action as Im not sure how we would use the info from his role. Possibly it can be used to figure out approxiomately how many mafia actions there are? Anyway, I did at first find the way he said he didn't want to claim his role somewhat suspicious, but his behaviour in general and my intuition give me the feeling that he is town.

Mischief - Town. Weird claim, but then again I could see why he/she? didn't want a massclaim considering his suspicious claim. He also was the first or one of the first (don't remember the exact order) to claim his role name and apparently more people have a [generic name] as role name so that makes me believe him. In addition, while I haven't played with him before Im getting this very strong town feeling from his posts in general.

Mooglie - Neutral. He has contributed a lot for the massclaim and also claimed his name early, but then again I could see his role as mafia where he causes problems for town PRs by making their role triple as expensive.

Omni - Suspicious. Haven't seen how he plays as town yet, but Im getting the same vibes from him similar like last game. He is active, but doesn't seem to be contrubuting much and also is against a massclaim and seems very set on lynching Notty for some reason so he would be my number 2 choice after Notme in todays lynch.

Mulbery/Stranger - Its possible that one of these could be mafia since one role blocker and one jailer seems quite powerful on the same side, but then again Mulbery said his action was expensive so that could perhaps have been a move from Alisha to unproblematically include them both. However if they are both town I am assuming mafias have very powerful roles.

Nottykitten - Slight town. Could be a mafia watcher so that's something to watch out for, but I'm getting town vibes from her, and she claimed her name early from what I remember so I'm leaning towards town.

Timdood3 - Slightly suspicious. He did say this: "I think notty and inf are both just townies arguing from different perspectives", which might be genuine but I also feel they might have been attempt at recieving townie poinst if Infected or Notty (however this relies on them both being town) got lynched (I believe they had most votes at the time). Also he claimed his role name late and hasn't claimed his role yet, but then again he has been contributing to the discussion so not sure if that means he is mafia.

The rest - Don't have a particular read on yet.

Like I said I find Notme the best choice for todays lynch, and it also seems like he is the likeliest option that might reach enough votes anyway

Vote Notme
hahahaha this is a garbage list of reads dude

what is with peoples inability to read raxo

please lynch notty
 
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Are we all doing that thing where we list out our reads, that seems like a cool thing to do
 
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