Name discussion and suggestion thread

[Vatumok]

There have been talks (no plans yet) of changing the name of our servers/community for the reason of making it easier and better to advertise. We are making a lot of progress in the MC area and we should push that through.
First of all we are considering changing our community name EscapeRestart back to Blocktopia, though this is at the moment not very likely going to happen.
Secondly, Create is likely getting a namechange, be it to buildbox or something else.
Lastly, We are looking at Army of Darkness because it's a film name and the current gamemodes are not all zombies.

Use this thread to discuss why we should or should not change the name of any of these servers and throw in name suggestions for AoD and Create if you have them. In a week or something we will follow up on this thread to get a more general opinion once we have all the ideas.

Here's the current stance/arguments on the namechanges.
Community
EscapeRestart: Better name for non-MC games. We do not have to go through a name change again.
Blocktopia: Way better and bigger name for MC, would profit us there. Will harm TTT though.

Create
Create: Very simple and clear name. We do not have to change anything.
BuildBox: Catchy name while still being pretty clear what it's about. Easier to advertise.
Other: ??? - Perhaps a different name is better than what there is currently to choose from.

Army of Darkness
AoD: Half of the gamemodes are zombie related and Army of Darkness is a cool name. Shares its name with a movie.
Other: ??? - Perhaps there is a better name and would also be easier to advertise.

Stay classy, be respectful when posting.

 

[Poe]

Can we suggest a new name for the community?

 

[Vatumok]

Can we suggest a new name for the community?

Sure but realistically I don't see us changing the name to anything but Blocktopia, -if- we're changing names.

 

[Notme]

I prefer to not change community's name - I actually named bookmark to this forum and titled server lobby in MC launcher "TheOn- Blocktopi- EscapeRestart"

 

[Psycho]

Vat, you're focusing on an "issue" that is a waste of time and should be on the back end of Community problems right now.
I have never seen any issues, from players, with the current community/server names after we went through the overhaul.

You guys should be focusing on better server content and player retention.
We do see new players, but the majority of them do not stay on the servers for long or don't bother to come back. There may have been a multitude of issues that the players saw that we failed to fix, but I doubt that it was the name of our community or servers that deterred them from coming back again.

 

[Friendy]

I do not see why people seem to think that reverting back to Blocktopia is "moving backwards" or that it would be such a terrible thing to do?

Yes, I understand that TTT players are worried how it may affect them, but it honestly doesn't change much at all - the reason it all went to shit last time was because it was rushed, there really wasn't any planning long-term into the rebranding it seems and there was so much discussion over it that it turned into arguments. It wasn't well-thought out whatsoever, and that's clear if you look back, what have we actually achieved from the rebrand? A TTT server; now for those who thought I said TTT was unsuccessful in the community news thread that is not what I meant at all - what I meant by that was the rebranding was not a success, we rebranded to branch out to other games and whatnot but that did not happen, we branched out to TTT only and now unfortunately it has seen better days.

However, saying "TTT brings players to the forums" is a flawed argument, as they only come to the forums for 1 reason and then they leave - we need to combat that! RoF is our main source for bringing new players into the community which is where we should be focusing our attention for now.

Put it this way, rather than focusing our attention on other games, for the time being we should put all our efforts into building up our minecraft playerbase, who cares if they are kids or adults? We want to grow in size, now what people have seemed to ignore is that in doing so, we then in turn could have more resources in terms of money, players and staff meaning that if we do branch out to other games, we have more players to play those games which again in turn brings in more players. It's like this: Nobody plays dead servers, but people join servers with players on - why should we branch out to games where 5 people will play for a week then stop because of how dead boring it is to play with such little players?

As for Create namechange, BuildBox made sense - it was named that because we used Boxels and you built inside your "box" plot, now Create uses bPlots which is exactly the same, except you're not in your own world and unless someone thinks of a better name I personally feel BuildBox is far better suited.

Vat, you're focusing on an "issue" that is a waste of time and should be on the back end of Community problems right now.
I have never seen any issues, from players, with the current community/server names after we went through the overhaul.

You guys should be focusing on better server content and player retention.
We do see new players, but the majority of them do not stay on the servers for long or don't bother to come back. There may have been a multitude of issues that the players saw that we failed to fix, but I doubt that it was the name of our community or servers that deterred them from coming back again.

We've said this before, in what way does this suggest that we're focusing all of our attention to just a "name change", how're you to know what's going on behind closed doors? There are a lot of things in discussion, but Vat feels the community should be allowed to have their say in the name of the community they play in, so of course he is going to make a post, because if he doesn't and changes it without discussion half of the community will flip their shit over something that is honestly not that big of a deal.

 

[Vatumok]

Vat, you're focusing on an "issue" that is a waste of time and should be on the back end of Community problems right now.
I have never seen any issues, from players, with the current community/server names after we went through the overhaul.

You guys should be focusing on better server content and player retention.
We do see new players, but the majority of them do not stay on the servers for long or don't bother to come back. There may have been a multitude of issues that the players saw that we failed to fix, but I doubt that it was the name of our community or servers that deterred them from coming back again.

Who says we are not focussing on improving our servers? You think I am putting all my focus on changing the names because I put it as a possibility in community news? I'm getting everything in order before advertising but both should be handled because wasting time means we lose players. There is literally nothing wrong with starting discussion regarding the community/server names, it can only work out postively.

 

[Enderfive]

i had an idea

what if we advertise all our minecraft servers as one server and call that blocktopia, then once you're in the blocktopia lobby, you can choose between rof, aod, create and whatever else we have at the moment

pros:
-at this moment you go through one lobby server anyway, so no restructuring is needed (i think)
-blocktopia is back baby, ez advertising and whatever else vatu thinks it could bring
-escaperestart stays as the overarching community name and keeps the door open for ventures into other games
-ttt doesn't get screwed
-possibly maybe brings the minecraft part of the community more together under the blocktopian identity, rather than fracturing it between individual servers (okay yeah this is probably a long shot)

cons: probably some but idk what??????

 

[SirComputer]

If no one wants it, we don't go ahead with it. That's why we have this post. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ We're not just focusing on a name change - the advertising team is already working on quite a few weird and wonderful things.

I think I don't really mind if the community name changes or not - it'd maybe help our MC servers a bit if we changed, but it would almost definitely harm our TTT server, maybe unless we kept "EscapeRestart" in the title for like 6 months. I think Create's name should be changed though, because it's even less original than BuildBox, and doesn't work very well in Google (search EscapeRestart Create as opposed to EscapeRestart BuildBox). It could be that it's because Create hasn't been used for that long, but the search engine listings would be nice. Army of Darkness shares its name with a movie, so might be worth changing too.

Let's have a fight to the death - whose opinion will come out on top?!?!

 

[les_morts_vivants]

i had an idea

what if we advertise all our minecraft servers as one server and call that blocktopia, then once you're in the blocktopia lobby, you can choose between rof, aod, create and whatever else we have at the moment

pros:
-at this moment you go through one lobby server anyway, so no restructuring is needed (i think)
-blocktopia is back baby, ez advertising and whatever else vatu thinks it could bring
-escaperestart stays as the overarching community name and keeps the door open for ventures into other games
-ttt doesn't get screwed
-possibly maybe brings the minecraft part of the community more together under the blocktopian identity, rather than fracturing it between individual servers (okay yeah this is probably a long shot)

cons: probably some but idk what??????

Hey hey stop thinking like a reasonable person

 

[Psycho]

Who says we are not focussing on improving our servers? You think I am putting all my focus on changing the names because I put it as a possibility in community news? I'm getting everything in order before advertising but both should be handled because wasting time means we lose players. There is literally nothing wrong with starting discussion regarding the community/server names, it can only work out postively.

First, the Buildbox name itself is already taken by another site that focuses on gaming and coding.

RoF has done well for itself in the past few months with the refresh and is the strongest performing Minecraft server that we have.

Create lacks a proper Admin and Controller. And it seems like player promotions based on builds are still an issue for staff because it's hard to get a decent building standard going per rank. Which sometimes lead to players being confused about what exactly constitutes a promotion to Builder or Specialist.

AoD. Even though it has been updated recently with new game modes and bugs being fixed, the server still experiences a lack of players to fully enjoy said game modes except for the Mob mode. Only when there are a group of players playing does the server increase player count, but the majority of the time the server is empty. I think AoD suffers from the effects of short term gaming because you can only PvP players for so long until you get bored by repetition.

SMP. Of course there are players waiting for this, but looking at the history of the community's previous SMP servers -- playercounts from RoF, Create, and AoD could be low whilst those players migrate to SMP. The game mode was also seen as a short term server on here, which Malc recently picked up on and decided to have a go in creating a long term SMP server, but it looks like Ogarci is heading the server now.

TTT. This server has done well especially in the past when I would usually see it filled with players. I have also seen it ranked at around 400 to 500 before in the server list that it is under, but now I see it at 1000.

Lastly, will the advertisers be creating content posted on YouTube or streaming through twitch?

 

[SirComputer]

First, the Buildbox name itself is already taken by another site that focuses on gaming and coding.

We can try and think of a different name then, and if we can't, we stay with Create. This is what this thread is about!

Create lacks a proper Admin and Controller. And it seems like player promotions based on builds are still an issue for staff because it's hard to get a decent building standard going per rank. Which sometimes lead to players being confused about what exactly constitutes a promotion to Builder or Specialist.

Admin/Controller problem needs time to fix with bringing people up etc. We sort of keep bringing up player promotions occasionally but we still need to figure that out. That's something we're trying to get done before advertising goes into full swing.

Lastly, will the advertisers be creating content posted on YouTube or streaming through twitch?

Depends if we have the ability to create any.

Anyway, this is the name suggestion thread, not the tell us what you think about all the servers thread, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

 

[Ogarci]

I was going to make a reply to this sooner, but I had some horrible stomach virus yesterday and ended sleeping all day.

For the community potential rename: I don't think the community should be renamed. Looking back at the reasons that we changed to EscRes in the first place, we had all decided that we wanted to community to go into a more diverse path besides just minecraft. After we've made that change, has it had any negative impact on our minecraft servers? Arguably no. Our minecraft servers are just the same as they were before they had a new name attached to them. Going from Blocktopia to EscRes didn't murder them, and reverting back isn't going to bring them magically to life.

With the EscRes name, it leaves us open to expanding to other games, like we did with TTT, which imo is by far our best experience in trying out non-mc games. The word 'block' is now basically synonymous with minecraft now, and while I don't think it would necessarily murder our TTT server, I don't see at all how it could help it.

Honestly, at the end of the day, a title is just a title. It's not going to make or break us. People don't refuse to join Hive or whatever its called because it sounds like a beehive and that scares them. People aren't going to be more inclined to join us because we're Blocktopia, EscRes, TO, whatever. They aren't going to join our servers, really enjoy them, but then make the decision "I'm not returning to that server because I don't like the community name."

I don't think that a community rename is worth the time or effort whatsoever. We should be more concerned on what players experience once they're here, and trying to retain them.

For server renames:

Yes, I think both Create and AoD should be renamed, I have no idea what to change them to however. I liked BuildBox but Psy pointed out that thats used by someone else now.

 

[Hex]

I was going to make a reply to this sooner, but I had some horrible stomach virus yesterday and ended sleeping all day.

For the community potential rename: I don't think the community should be renamed. Looking back at the reasons that we changed to EscRes in the first place, we had all decided that we wanted to community to go into a more diverse path besides just minecraft. After we've made that change, has it had any negative impact on our minecraft servers? Arguably no. Our minecraft servers are just the same as they were before they had a new name attached to them. Going from Blocktopia to EscRes didn't murder them, and reverting back isn't going to bring them magically to life.

With the EscRes name, it leaves us open to expanding to other games, like we did with TTT, which imo is by far our best experience in trying out non-mc games. The word 'block' is now basically synonymous with minecraft now, and while I don't think it would necessarily murder our TTT server, I don't see at all how it could help it.

Honestly, at the end of the day, a title is just a title. It's not going to make or break us. People don't refuse to join Hive or whatever its called because it sounds like a beehive and that scares them. People aren't going to be more inclined to join us because we're Blocktopia, EscRes, TO, whatever. They aren't going to join our servers, really enjoy them, but then make the decision "I'm not returning to that server because I don't like the community name."

I don't think that a community rename is worth the time or effort whatsoever. We should be more concerned on what players experience once they're here, and trying to retain them.

For server renames:

Yes, I think both Create and AoD should be renamed, I have no idea what to change them to however. I liked BuildBox but Psy pointed out that thats used by someone else now.

Pretty much this 100%

EscRes is fine, but I do think Create and AoD need new names. Hell create doesn't even have to be BuildBox. I just want a better name than Create. I find Create to be a very boring and bland name. People like to argue that its because you "Create" things, which I get, but seriously, it is a really simple name that could be worked on. I just think Create is a very generic creative server name.

I think we may also need polls soon about possibly other games we could branch into, and see what possibilities we have Vatumok .
Even though our first attempt at going into other games didn't go over great, TTT is a shining example of it working, and it could work again, we just have to have dedicated people like the TTT Staff.

 

[JtTorso]

Pretty much this 100%

EscRes is fine, but I do think Create and AoD need new names. Hell create doesn't even have to be BuildBox. I just want a better name than Create. I find Create to be a very boring and bland name. People like to argue that its because you "Create" things, which I get, but seriously, it is a really simple name that could be worked on. I just think Create is a very generic creative server name.

I think we may also need polls soon about possibly other games we could branch into, and see what possibilities we have Vatumok .
Even though our first attempt at going into other games didn't go over great, TTT is a shining example of it working, and it could work again, we just have to have dedicated people like the TTT Staff.

Evidently the advertising team want to focus on Minecraft, why not start with making changes there? I like the name Create, of our Minecraft servers I think it's the one that needs refreshing the least, but at least the repercussions would be minimal, unlike changing our name back to Blocktopia and likely dividing the community further.

 

[3nd3rslayer]

I do not see why escape restart would need a name change, as it is good for advertising as there is practically nothing else called escape restart. Apart from that, I don't see why not working to a more elaborate name but I don't think we have any major problems with that name. As for aod and create we definitely need a name change for advertising purposes, although I do not know what we could rename them to. All I know is that it needs to be advertisable and stick to the theme of the game mode.

 

[Velzerat]

Vat, you're focusing on an "issue" that is a waste of time and should be on the back end of Community problems right now.
I have never seen any issues, from players, with the current community/server names after we went through the overhaul.

You guys should be focusing on better server content and player retention.
We do see new players, but the majority of them do not stay on the servers for long or don't bother to come back. There may have been a multitude of issues that the players saw that we failed to fix, but I doubt that it was the name of our community or servers that deterred them from coming back again.

Honestly, it's not a big focus. It's just a name change. That's all. Just a small, minor change, which got blown way out of proportion because apparently it's been too long since we had some useless shitstorm. We're working on better server content and player retention. Especially on RoF. This is just one of the many things.

 

[sessybessy]

HarambeCraft

With a jungle filled with salient and his species, monkies. Don't forget the gorillas and apes!
We also need a world of mugs. Vatumug, Friendymug, Salmug, Pinkmug, the list goes on.

-I'll go now-
Sorry for derailing a bit.

 

[Hex]

HarambeCraft

With a jungle filled with salient and his species, monkies. Don't forget the gorillas and apes!
We also need a world of mugs. Vatumug, Friendymug, Salmug, Pinkmug, the list goes on.

-I'll go now-
Sorry for derailing a bit.

rejected because it has craft in the name

 

[Jayfeather]

I mean more or less you could say "what is our most popular server?" Probably TTT or RoF but at the end of the day we've never been anything but a Minecraft community so it'd be better to embrace that than pretend like we overhauled. At least Blocktopia is a direction we've handled before

 

[sessybessy]

rejected because it has craft in the name

I forgot we wanted to be more than a minecraft server.

Harambionia?
EscapeReHarambe?
Or just name it Harambeee

 

[Duffie]

Could always rename Create to Blocktopia, if that's not too meta.

 

[Iggish]

HarambeCraft

With a jungle filled with salient and his species, monkies. Don't forget the gorillas and apes!
We also need a world of mugs. Vatumug, Friendymug, Salmug, Pinkmug, the list goes on.

-I'll go now-
Sorry for derailing a bit.

Spoiler: harambe

I'm thinking this could be in the centre of the new lobby...

the motto could be: "picks out for harambe"

 

[CloudBryan9]

I'm feeling really lazy right now so I'll just quote what I said in the news thread.

What if we rebranded the MC servers back to Blocktopia and kept Escape Restart as well? Hear me out on this.

What if Escape Restart is the overall arching community and Blocktopia is a "sub community" that was absorbed and run by ER. So you could say in advertisements "Bocktopia an Escape Restart Minecraft community." You could think of it this way in gaming, EA has multiple titles, developers, and communities under its wing.
What I am proposing is that Escape Restart is the "EA" and Blocktopia is one of the "game developers" making MC servers. By doing this, TTT will not change since it is directly run by ER.

This could open up more options in branching out to other games. Where the name Escape Restart wouldn't fit in.

There are however three cons to this idea. That I can think of off the top of my head.
1. Might be confusing to some people. Especially if we don't 100% clearly state that Blocktopia is run by ER.

2. Would require us to maintain multiple domains. And if we add another game using a different name, we have to buy that domain. $$$

3. Risk of further dividing the already fractured community. That said, the Blocktopia section of the forums would be for MC related stuff anyway. So it might not hurt as much as I thought. (Sorry thinking as I type.)

Honestly this will make both sides happy. And might help us out eventually. As much as I love the name Blocktopia... sadly I don't see it coming back as the overall community name. But I can see it as the name of the MC servers.

 

[superstein]

Implicitly what is being debated here is not the name change, but the desired direction of the community. EscapeRestart serves as a name to a general gaming community, while Blocktopia is Minecraft in specific. If we switch back to Blocktopia, we're more or less putting the nail in the coffin to expanding to other games in the long term. Consider the implications here before making any decisions.