Ideas for Blocktopia NEW SERVERS AND STUFF!!!!
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I disagree, because first of all creating servers and programming stuff is pretty hard and takes a while. (Plus the testing) Then you would have to maintain it and as you see for 5 servers the monthly maintenance is $125. And people just don't come flowing in. There are hundreds of hunger games servers and PvP servers. If we add one more, what are the chances that it become popular instantly? And lastly, we would have to advertise before releasing servers since we need a fairly large of operators per server to monitor them.
What's actually confusing about them?
Also, A&T was great. But it went away, understandably, for a number of reasons. Of course, A&T style things like games and arenas can be set up in BB and/or JtE anyway, so if there's really demand for it then people can do it themselves (koth anyone?).
I liked the occasional Solitude servers that went up. I could get behind doing something like that, maybe running a new concept for 1-2 weeks every couple of months, so that people have something to mix up their fun. But even that, as mentioned above, may change server costs and whatnot. In the end, I trust the admins/controllers/GmK to make good decisions, because they can always explain when something goes away, and they haven't let me down yet with new stuff.
What people are forgetting is that we've already had a Tekkit server. As per usual people demand a server, it happens, popular for 1 week and then it dies and closes. Tekkit was getting a fair amount at first, then there was barely 5 on a day and due to extensive griefing and it being a general nuisance it was closed down.
One of, if not the best server was A&T in my opinion and should be the one to return. Simply due to the fact that for months it was pulling in 20+ players a day, and even when the server went through a drought due to many bugs and lack of updates on maps etc, the server still managed to achieve 20+ players; not to mention that it is very, very unique in the way it gave players the option to play various game modes with different maps.
See, with advertising, there are two routes you can go, two I see that may work.
"We're different from other servers, we offer something new"
"We have this popular gamemode, and we have a lot of people"
Both tend to work to some decree. Thing is, while we can make that popular gamemode, we do not have a lot of people to back it. If we implemented these servers, we wouldn't just get players, we would need to advertise our servers, which costs money. Another problem is when we copy things that have been done, we have to compete with those other servers that offer the exact same thing, but already have thousands of people.
I don't make the choice, but I don't think it'd work out.
"We're different from other servers, we offer something new"
"We have this popular gamemode, and we have a lot of people"
Both tend to work to some decree. Thing is, while we can make that popular gamemode, we do not have a lot of people to back it. If we implemented these servers, we wouldn't just get players, we would need to advertise our servers, which costs money. Another problem is when we copy things that have been done, we have to compete with those other servers that offer the exact same thing, but already have thousands of people.
I don't make the choice, but I don't think it'd work out.
Not really sure what that has to do with this suggestion. You thought of the idea, we're providing feedback on the idea and only that. I personally am very glad you're sharing your ideas and opinions, it's insightful and it provides feedback. So thank you, you are helping x)
I could add my own spin on whats been said, but it'd be basically the same old song. All the info has been typed out and slapped down in this thread Dio, and I'm not saying that this won't happen, but it's rather unlikely. We would need more advertisement, which requires more money, and resources, we would need more staff, and etc.
All already been said.
I quoted this for I feel like your not understanding some of the posting going on here. Just because the general consensuses is that most of the ideas in your original thread post won't work or be beneficial to the community shouldn't get you down. I've seen some positive feedback and energy coming out of this thread, and as a whole, I think this community is a very open and generally enjoys talking things out like this. It's not that people don't want you to help, its just that some of these ideas wouldn't work...but some could. So just sit back and discuss, no need to get upset because some of your ideas and views aren't agreed upon.
Bit of advice - If your going into a creative field (and I consider this one, a open discussion on community issues and possibilities - a debate) ANY creative field writing, painting, etc., can be considered, you'll have to be able to take constructive criticism. (And sometimes just criticism)
I'm going to reply to this as medially as possible.
There is a clear cut difference between helping people because it will benefit the group/community as a whole and helping people to prove your self worth to either an outside source or yourself.
That being said I'd like to first address the plausible reasoning to the creation of this thread. You're trying to prove to the community, Blocktopia, that you have insightful content to bring to the table. One thing that I'm sure will be strong: "Everyone has something to bring to the table" or "Everyone will affect the drive to a goal, whether negatively or positively." The best metaphor for this would be scientists. Scientists commit themselves to a plethora of experiments before they come up with the correct solution. When an experiment comes out with the unintended outcome: It's not seen as a failure. It's seen as a solution that isn't possible and they can work on adjusting the experiment or beginning a new one.
Going along the scientist's metaphor, a shitton of scientists are working to come up with a solution. No scientist is solely responsible for a solution. They may receive credit to finding/acclaiming the solution, but no one should be able to say that they were only piece that was needed. Many other scientists before them found non-solutions and information that the accomplisher was able to view and use. What I'm saying here is, you nor one single person will be the proprietary person that moves Blocktopia forward. It will be a working of many people.
I'd like to now move to the responses and responses you've received for your thread. You've asked at the top of the thread in a voting form: You like my idea!! In which, you ask people for their opinion and they give it. Many backed up with reasons that have been discussed in prior thread. You could also consider yourself tenfold lucky that your thread stayed open since you suggested a lot of suggestions that have been suggested before, which would've meant immediate locking of the thread. Yet many came and turned it into a thoughtful diccussion. People came to this willing to discuss the opinions and ideas they had to offer and that you had to offer. One big reason you are getting a the response you didn't intend is because you were asked to back your reasonings with your imput and factual information. And you didn't. ((e__e))
What I want to leave this post off on is that this thread many possibly be one of the many upon many non-solutions for Blocktopia and that you can take the responses you've received for a better outlook in the future. And maybe not try to turn a suggestion thread about you which most people would view as a negative aspect about someone.
Leave this thread as a learning experience*, not as a failure.
*I couldn't think of a less cornier way to word this. Forgive me pessimists.
You've shot suggestions around which is always nice, but nevertheless as Trap stated, one person cannot move the community forwards by themselves.
I'm going to be a bit blunt here, you cannot expect an individual who was just banned off one of the Blocktopia servers to be capable and held responsible for opening another server related to Blocktopia? I'm not trying to say anything or start any nonsense whatsoever, but just look at from a different perspective. I suggest for you individually to stay out of trouble and be loyal. I feel any member who stays dedicated to the community and willing to try new servers (whilst staying out of trouble) is helping this community move forward. And apart from the issues in the past, you have been dedicated and loyal to the servers.
Lemme see if I've got this right.
So you post an idea/suggestion, ask for feedback, and proceed to ignore said feedback.
So you post an idea/suggestion, ask for feedback, and proceed to ignore said feedback.
To be blunt, many people have been here longer than you, and I, and even they haven't opened a new server and either ran or staffed it. A lot of large movements like a server opening, or indeed a game switch like Cube World takes more than 1 or 2 people, and neesd the backing of Administration.
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Ideas for Blocktopia NEW SERVERS AND STUFF!!!!
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Ideas for Blocktopia NEW SERVERS AND STUFF!!!!
If you want to staff a server, than work towards it. It's the admins decision who runs servers, it's the director's decisions who staffs their servers. If you want to staff a server, this isn't how you work towards it.
Lets stick close to the discussion point, because this is just derailing from the OP. Thaaaaaaaaaank you.
Ideas for Blocktopia NEW SERVERS AND STUFF!!!!
Discussion point:
Ideas for Blocktopia NEW SERVERS AND STUFF!!!!
If you want to staff a server, than work towards it. It's the admins decision who runs servers, it's the director's decisions who staffs their servers. If you want to staff a server, this isn't how you work towards it.
Lets stick close to the discussion point, because this is just derailing from the OP. Thaaaaaaaaaank you.
Thanks for bringing that up, I had no idea this had already been done before. In that case my vote wouldn't go for the Tekkit server either.
Right now I think we should try to work on improving the existing servers. I wasn't there for A&T, so I can't really place my vote on that, because I don't want to vote for something I have never experienced, even though the things I've heard are great.
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